finally a real tracktion mixer?

[paladium]

haia,

How about this for 59 USd.
supports rewire2 sends, so u can send/return Tracktion
channels .

http://www.steinberg.net/ProductPage_sb ... angue_ID=7

paladium

[C00kie]

V-Stack can be a nice tool, but in this case it is $59 spent too much. There already is a mixer in Tracktion, but you seem not to recognise it as such.

Also, each ReWire channel in use takes quite some CPU load. Another resource you'd better use for something else...

[IIRs]

[paladium]

well lets call this a more conventional
mixer then, cpuload -wise the tfmixer
plugin combined with a multiout dr008 gives
a higher cpuload than using it via rewire.

[audiobot202]

haia,

How about this for 59 USd.
supports rewire2 sends, so u can send/return Tracktion
channels .

http://www.steinberg.net/ProductPage_sb ... angue_ID=7

paladium

The mixer in Tracktion is already very logical. It's been pointed out many times in different threads. It's not so different from anything else as to be confusing is it? It makes perfect sense to me. A linear signal path...drag and drop...even sends can be set up if you need them I believe and racks take care of any multi output plugins, so unless your needs are very very specific, Tracktion has the capacity to do what you need.
I personally find mixers in other programs stupid and mind numbing. Too many knobs, too many slots and sends and inserts and stuff that just emulates hardware mixers. It's comfortable for people used to hardware I guess, but for people who see the advantage in a software paradigm, it's just archaic I think.

[AndrewSimon]

No thanks.

Looks pretty but that's about it.
I like the simplicity of T.
Who needs all those busy things on the screen ... not me.

[RCcola]

I second or third the opinion that Tracktion's current 'mixer' is more than adequate. In fact, the linear way Jules set things up was one of the first things that made me go gaga for Tracktion. For me, the addition of a more conventional mixer screen, or tab or whatever, would be the very sort of redundancy that Tracktion's environment contrasts.

However... if Jules/Mackie began to realize that the 'missing mixer' was the ONE thing that was keeping a large number of people from adopting Tracktion, then I think it would be a good thing to have that option, maybe implemented the way Racks are, so nobody has to use or see it if they don't want to.

<hijack>Now about that missing beat detection/time-stretching...</hijack>

[Lunch Money]

Yes,

The only reason to add a mixer would be to win over the 'traditionalists'.

Don't know if that's the best strategy, though-- there may or may not be a revenue increase from it, but the idea is to get people to realize that there are better ways of doing things. Can't do that if you give them their old comfortable crutch... because somebody switching over from another sequencer (say, cubase) starts using the 'hardware-emulation' mixer because it's familiar, and they never bother to explore the other mixerless option.

Better to stay the course for the revolution, no?



Greg

[klagga]

Better to stay the course for the revolution, no?

Hell yes!

Also, if a traditional mixer is implemented to satisfy traditionalists, then those old-timers will probably want to implement other archaic things, too. Why not have virtual mixer benches and virtual snakepits with dusty electrical cords, just to make these people feel like they´re in a real studio?

[rpc9943]

um what about that french guy's mixers he made? they seem pretty freaking sweet to me.

RonC

[ModuLR]

1) spending money
2) creating more work for yourself
3) Accomplishing something which can be done natively
4) must be a massocist..

[pHz]

REAL NATIVE TRACKTION MIXER HERE ... UGLY AS f**k BUT DOES THE JOB IF YOURE DESPERATE ENOUGH TO NEED THE COMFORT BLANKET OF A HARDWARE EMULATION DESPITE THE FACT VECTOR MIXING IS MUCHMUCHMUCH BETTER

slainte rob

[Lunch Money]

Waitasec...

I'm at work...

I wonder what's in that zip.

[zeoy]

An 8-chanel mixer with vol-pan-eq (standard T filters) implemented via a rack

[braj]

An 8-chanel mixer with vol-pan-eq (standard T filters) implemented via a rack

I think this would be a good option, just another filter to plug in a rack. Make the sliders tiny as well, so the thing fits in the rack screen. To me, the reason you may need a mixer is more as a sub mixer for drum kits than for the whole mix, and it would make sense to make it a rack filter. It wouldn't break with Tracktions design paradigm IMO.