Anybody know of any Classic Sampler impulse responses?

[jones-y]

I'd absolutely love to get my hands on some impulse responses from an MPC60 or an SP12 or EMAX or S950 or....

Anybody know if any exist? I'd be happy to worship the ground you walk on

Here's an idea for the devs. Create a drum sampler based on Impulse responses of these machines....

[deastman]

Hmmm. I sold my Emax years ago, but a friend of mine still has one. It might be interesting to try making an impulse of it at 10K sampling rate. I've never tried making an impulse before... what do I have to do? I assume I have to sample some sort of test tone and then play it back out into my PC or something?

[jones-y]

Hmmm. I sold my Emax years ago, but a friend of mine still has one. It might be interesting to try making an impulse of it at 10K sampling rate. I've never tried making an impulse before... what do I have to do? I assume I have to sample some sort of test tone and then play it back out into my PC or something?

Yes, its as simple as that. It'd be nice if you could do a collection of them, maybe at different volume/sampling levels, and different sample rates.

You could start with a simple impulse. Assuming you have an audio editor that allows waveform drawing, you could just create an empty waveform, and draw a spike at the beginning of the wave. Then just sample that into the EMAX, and record it back out to your PC.

I'd guess that using a sine wave sweep (the other common 'test tone' format) would be out of the question, due to the limited sample memory.

[McLilith]

I'm not sure whether this will yield anything interesting enough to make it worth the effort. Exactly what are you hoping to achieve with this?


take care,
McLilith

[jones-y]

In the hip hop circles, the MPC60 and SP-12 are revered for the sound that they impart on drum samples. Its an in-your-face, gritty yet smooth, kind of sound, that can't be reproduced with bit reduction and sample rate reduction alone.

I can attest to it. those models, as well as the ASR-10, EMAX, and S950 have justly earned their iconic status in the hip hop world. I've heard the results with my own ears. And I'm sure we all have, maybe without realizing it.

[jones-y]

If anyone is still interested, McLilith and I had a brief convo on another forum:

Would there be any interest in Ensoniq Mirage impulses? (It will take awhile before I can get around to it.)

Also, do you want to capture the input response of the sampler, the output response, or do you want a capture that reflects the total effect of both input and output anomalies?


take care,
McLilith

To which my response was:

Yes!!! Take your time... I'm not going anywhere.

Any, or all, of the above.

I guess my preference would be the sum total effect. But I'm a beggar, and as such...

Thank you muchly, kind sir, for anything you're willing to give!

I say again, thanks good sir!

And anyone else who'd like to contribute to the cause, I'll be glad to worship your shoes too...

And for any genius dev who capitalizes on this untapped market, I don't even want intellectual capital royalties I just want a free copy

[kritikon]

Old samplers are still revered?

Hey, I've got an Akai S950 with extra RAM (the maximum of a huge 2.25MB ) sitting on my top shelf doing nothing but holding the frame in place.
How does US$250 sound? (and no, I won't pay the shipping ).

I occasionally think about using it as a drum machine, but it's not worth the extra 8 patchbay spaces being used up. Maybe if I keep hold of it, it'll become a classic and I can sell it to a synthesiser museum

[Hellbilly]

My friend has an ASR-10 and too bad i sold my EMAX many years ago.

[jones-y]

Old samplers are still revered?

Hey, I've got an Akai S950 with extra RAM (the maximum of a huge 2.25MB ) sitting on my top shelf doing nothing but holding the frame in place.
How does US$250 sound? (and no, I won't pay the shipping ).

I occasionally think about using it as a drum machine, but it's not worth the extra 8 patchbay spaces being used up. Maybe if I keep hold of it, it'll become a classic and I can sell it to a synthesiser museum

The S950 is a bit convoluted to operate, especially compared to the MPC60. Put it on ebay, you'll get around $200-250, depending on condition, for it. It has the same sound engine (more or less) as the MPC60. That's why its valued. Its considered the poor-man's MPC60 in Hip Hop circles.

If it wasn't so convoluted, and I didn't have a fiancee I'd buy it. Oh, and limitations rule!

Hey, you could do me a huge favor though....

[lex_strooder]

In the hip hop circles, the MPC60 and SP-12 are revered for the sound that they impart on drum samples. Its an in-your-face, gritty yet smooth, kind of sound, that can't be reproduced with bit reduction and sample rate reduction alone.

Have you tried to mix a bit reduced sample and a real one ?

Try to eq them with the boosted high from the real one and the mid and low from the bit reduction one, this is the way I hear people do it these days

/ Lex

[sinkmusic]

i owned a akai s20 a few years ago, and, in the end, i used only for its sound quality (12bits/32khz), i owuld like a lot to find such an impulse ot reach that sound again ! (bitredux plugins don't do the job as well !)

[kritikon]

If I can find time, I'll get around to making some impulses (never done it before, so can't promise decent results )

I could do some at different sampling rates, different input and output levels etc, but it's not likely in the next few days - I'll let you know.

[jones-y]

In the hip hop circles, the MPC60 and SP-12 are revered for the sound that they impart on drum samples. Its an in-your-face, gritty yet smooth, kind of sound, that can't be reproduced with bit reduction and sample rate reduction alone.

Have you tried to mix a bit reduced sample and a real one ?

Try to eq them with the boosted high from the real one and the mid and low from the bit reduction one, this is the way I hear people do it these days

/ Lex

I haven't yet tried that one. I find that I can get pretty close using just the bit reduction in RM IV, but we're talking Steinberg Model E, not Minimonsta, not even MiniMoog V.

@ kritikon

No rush, my friend! Just be sure to share!

[Steven West]

I still prize my Casio SK-1 and SK-5 to this day.
Sure, I've bit reduced samples and added hiss on pro gear to get the equivilent - but not quite the same as a SK-1 will do...

[jones-y]

@s sinkmusic and Steven West,

Whew, I'm glad I'm not the only one