Racks and Sends for Multi Outs

[adventurepants]

Hi there, adventurepants here.

Long time lurker, First time poster.

Have been using T1 for about a year now, but have just come to use multi out VST's.

Ive had a trawl through previous posts, but cannot find anything specific on this question.

Im using a multi out sampler vst (DS-404) loaded with NSKit7. Ive wrapped it in a wrack, and I am sending 3 channels to separate tracks (kick, snare and hats).

my question is, is there any way of further subgrouping? ie can i then send the kick and snare onto a futher channel for compression? I cant seem to
see how to do it. The only way around ive found is to
render them to audio together then compress it, or to build the whole thing in a rack, but then i lose the convenience of muting and soloing each channel easily.

any ideas groundhogs?

Cheers,
Pants

[IIRs]

Select the kick and snare tracks, and route them to another track (instead of the audio output) You now have a sub-group! You can do this as many times as you like, and arrange the group tracks wherever you want them.. you can freeze group tracks, and you can also render them by inserting an empty MIDI clip (press "G" with the track selected: this stops the "there is nothing on this track to render" warning)

Have fun!

(Great name btw!)

[adventurepants]

thx platinumears.

ive actually tried that it seemed the intuitive thing to do (i love how tracktion just suggests ways of working), created a new track (in this case track 6) and routed the output of the snare and kick track to track 6. But all i get is silence on track 6.

any ideas?

[adventurepants]

ahhh just tried it again on my work computer, and it does work!


its a little confusing as the meter for the separate channels are still going up and down as well as the meter for the subgroup track even though the audio is only coming out through the subgroup.

awesome, another problem solved by the groundhogs.

cheers!

[valley]

don't think of meters as being rigid things like they are on hardware mixers. They simply show what the level of audio is as it passes through them. Your tracks have signal therefore the meters show it.

You can add extra meters to tracks and move them around. This can be useful if you need to check the level of audio that is being fed into an effect (ie pre-compression metering).

[adventurepants]

even though i thought i had gotten used to the no mixer layout, i WAS still thinking of a traditional mixer when i saw those meters going.

I did a little test for myself by putting a filter into the subgroup track and verified that i was getting only filtered audio from that and not dry audio from the individual tracks.

the deeper i go, the better it gets.

Thanks muchly valley!