I'm reading a tutorial on mixing. The article recommends spliting the drum sounds onto different tracks even though they share the same MIDI channel.
For example:
* Bass drum track 1 MIDI channel 10
* Closed hi-hat track 2 MIDI channel 10
* Open hi-hat track 3 MIDI channel 10
* Snare drum track 4 MIDI channel 10
What are some tips on ways to do this.
I'm using Tracktion and DK+ drum sequencer.
A related question to this is should I just adjust levels, panning, compression, etc. in the DK+ interface
while keeping all the drum sounds on one track or should I split them up like the article suggests.
Thanks for any replies. I feel that I can't implement the advice in the article untill I learn how to do this.
Newbie question: How do I split up my drum track?
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
ok ...
1 - load up DK+ on your track and right-click > 'wrap this filter in a new rack filter' ... all your outputs should then appear connected in the rack ...
2 - load up a kit in DK+ and assign your different drums to the relevant output pairs by clicking on the pad number from the sequencer view ... in the example ive assigned the snare to outs 3+4 (with hats on 5+6 and the left kick on 1+2) ...
3 - drag an instance of the rack filter holding DK+ to each track you want to mix seperately (ive named them in the example so you can see easily what goes where) ...
4 - select the original instance of the DK+ rack (on track 1 here) and set both outputs to 'none' - this stops this particular rack passing any sound through to that tracks outs) ...
5 - select each instance of the rack in turn and set the output to the appropriate output from DK+ according to the settings you selected earlier (my snare is on 3+4 in DK+ so i need to select 'DK2L' and 'DK2R' (where 1+2 in DK+ appear as 'DK1L' and 'DK1R') as the outs on my 'snare' track) ...
6 - repeat as necessary for the outputs you have ... you can then mix with different levels for each drum element or put different effects on each drum channel ... here i have a compressor on the kick ... some EQ on the snare and a little delay on the hats ...
you will then be able to play all your drums through MIDI in track 1 (on channel 10 or whatever MIDI channel you choose actually) and have the signal split off to other tracks according to how youve set things up for different mix levels or effects ...
... hope that helps ...
(this technique applies for all multi-out VSTi too if you want different levels / effects on different outputs)
... as for your second question ... depends whether you want simplicity or control ... keep everything in one place if you want eaqsy routing and fast adjustment ... split the different sounds out if you want more control over individual elements of your drum tracks ...
slainte
rob
1 - load up DK+ on your track and right-click > 'wrap this filter in a new rack filter' ... all your outputs should then appear connected in the rack ...
2 - load up a kit in DK+ and assign your different drums to the relevant output pairs by clicking on the pad number from the sequencer view ... in the example ive assigned the snare to outs 3+4 (with hats on 5+6 and the left kick on 1+2) ...
3 - drag an instance of the rack filter holding DK+ to each track you want to mix seperately (ive named them in the example so you can see easily what goes where) ...
4 - select the original instance of the DK+ rack (on track 1 here) and set both outputs to 'none' - this stops this particular rack passing any sound through to that tracks outs) ...
5 - select each instance of the rack in turn and set the output to the appropriate output from DK+ according to the settings you selected earlier (my snare is on 3+4 in DK+ so i need to select 'DK2L' and 'DK2R' (where 1+2 in DK+ appear as 'DK1L' and 'DK1R') as the outs on my 'snare' track) ...
6 - repeat as necessary for the outputs you have ... you can then mix with different levels for each drum element or put different effects on each drum channel ... here i have a compressor on the kick ... some EQ on the snare and a little delay on the hats ...
you will then be able to play all your drums through MIDI in track 1 (on channel 10 or whatever MIDI channel you choose actually) and have the signal split off to other tracks according to how youve set things up for different mix levels or effects ...
... hope that helps ...
(this technique applies for all multi-out VSTi too if you want different levels / effects on different outputs)
... as for your second question ... depends whether you want simplicity or control ... keep everything in one place if you want eaqsy routing and fast adjustment ... split the different sounds out if you want more control over individual elements of your drum tracks ...
slainte
rob-
- KVRist
- 478 posts since 22 Nov, 2004 from Alexandria, VA
my brain hurts....
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
aw ... and i did pictures and everything ...FoxV wrote:my brain hurts....
slainte
rob-
- KVRist
- 478 posts since 22 Nov, 2004 from Alexandria, VA
...thanks for the sympathy! lol
....all kidding aside, awesome tutorial! Thanks!!
....all kidding aside, awesome tutorial! Thanks!!
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
Now thats how to help someone!!pHz wrote:ok ...
1 - load up DK+ on your track and right-click > 'wrap this filter in a new rack filter' ... all your outputs should then appear connected in the rack ...
2 - load up a kit in DK+ and assign your different drums to the relevant output pairs by clicking on the pad number from the sequencer view ... in the example ive assigned the snare to outs 3+4 (with hats on 5+6 and the left kick on 1+2) ...
3 - drag an instance of the rack filter holding DK+ to each track you want to mix seperately (ive named them in the example so you can see easily what goes where) ...
4 - select the original instance of the DK+ rack (on track 1 here) and set both outputs to 'none' - this stops this particular rack passing any sound through to that tracks outs) ...
5 - select each instance of the rack in turn and set the output to the appropriate output from DK+ according to the settings you selected earlier (my snare is on 3+4 in DK+ so i need to select 'DK2L' and 'DK2R' (where 1+2 in DK+ appear as 'DK1L' and 'DK1R') as the outs on my 'snare' track) ...
6 - repeat as necessary for the outputs you have ... you can then mix with different levels for each drum element or put different effects on each drum channel ... here i have a compressor on the kick ... some EQ on the snare and a little delay on the hats ...
you will then be able to play all your drums through MIDI in track 1 (on channel 10 or whatever MIDI channel you choose actually) and have the signal split off to other tracks according to how youve set things up for different mix levels or effects ...
... hope that helps ...
(this technique applies for all multi-out VSTi too if you want different levels / effects on different outputs)
... as for your second question ... depends whether you want simplicity or control ... keep everything in one place if you want eaqsy routing and fast adjustment ... split the different sounds out if you want more control over individual elements of your drum tracks ...
slainte
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
so my reverting to the default colour scheme didnt fool anyone then ???aldi wrote:the screenshots are looking nice
slainte
rob-
- KVRian
- 1323 posts since 26 Mar, 2004 from UK
That is an impressive post indeed sir! Now, can you demonstrate in an equally impressive graphic fashion how I fix the manual window winder on my 1993 Vauxhall Astra?
No, really, it's broken.
Nice screenies.
No, really, it's broken.
Nice screenies.
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
Ermmm... Top-right hand corner, mate...pHz wrote:so my reverting to the default colour scheme didnt fool anyone then ???aldi wrote:the screenshots are looking nice
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
mcnelson wrote:That is an impressive post indeed sir! Now, can you demonstrate in an equally impressive graphic fashion how I fix the manual window winder on my 1993 Vauxhall Astra?
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Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
...valley wrote:Ermmm... Top-right hand corner, mate...pHz wrote:so my reverting to the default colour scheme didnt fool anyone then ???aldi wrote:the screenshots are looking nice
slainte
rob
hey give us an example how midiediting works in tracktion -
- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
sorry ... no time for images this time round ...aldi wrote:hey give us an example how midiediting works in tracktion
1 - walk to newsagents
2 - buy CM or FM
3 - read T2 reviews and direct eyes towards published screenshots of MIDI editor ...
4 - interpret said images in order to understand T2 MIDI editing
5 - voila !!!
(or ... find another thread that shows you one of the screenshots with the MIDI editor open)
slainte
rob
thx rob