Is the stuck first note issue resolved or not?

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I'm not trying T2 until someone confirms that the stuck note render issue (not the Rewire one) is resolved. Is it? Is it? It's not? Why not?

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sorry, but that's the silliest thing I ever read. If you have a specific stuck note problem that bothers you, surely you'd download the demo to test that yourself? Why trust the word of anyone else?

Hell, I'm not even sure *which* stuck note problem you are referring to, but if it makes you happy, I'll say it's been fixed. :razz:
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valley wrote:sorry, but that's the silliest thing I ever read. If you have a specific stuck note problem that bothers you, surely you'd download the demo to test that yourself? Why trust the word of anyone else?

Hell, I'm not even sure *which* stuck note problem you are referring to, but if it makes you happy, I'll say it's been fixed. :razz:
I have heard that trying the demo makes 1.6 unusable, so therefore it's not a silly question. Just a silly response on your part. Which one I am refering to, is the inFAMOUS, as in everyone knows about it, stuck note issue, whereby upon render, whatever note is played first gets stuck. There is a workaround, which is fine for something I got for free, but not fine at all for something that costs $150-$200. So, thanks for your sarcasm, but I'm looking for a real answer. People must like you.

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I like him.

The demo won't do any damage at all to T1. Install it, see if it works for you. (Believe me, if anyone can screw up an install, it's me--T2 is a breeze).

Tom

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BTW, Valley--I just printed out the manual. As a perfesssion writter and editer, I can sey yuh done gud.

Tom

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Considering the demo restriction, how do you expect him to test for a "whereby upon render, whatever note is played first gets stuck" bug, when the demo doesn't let you render anything in the first place.

tkmattson, the only ones who could answer you are the beta testers, and so far they don't seem enclined to do so.
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Installing T2 will screw up your desktop and task bar shortcuts in Windows. Your current 'Tracktion' icon will change in appearance and send you straight to T2, rather than installing a new T2 icon and leaving the old T1 icon in place.

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god knows why i posted that here.

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SaviorNeeded wrote:I like him.
He seems to be my kind of scum, too....if it weren't for the particular set of circumstances that Tracktion 1.6 has/had with that blasted stuck note issue, I'd be of the same opinion (that it was a dumb ?) as well, but come on, is anyone in their right mind going to buy this thing IF that HASN'T been fixed?
SaviorNeeded wrote:The demo won't do any damage at all to T1. Install it, see if it works for you. (Believe me, if anyone can screw up an install, it's me--T2 is a breeze).

Tom
Good to know....have you rendered a MIDI loop yet, say with some of the more known offending problem stuck note VSTi's like Sampletank? In the earlier thread I read that some people were having the same old stuck note issue....which I find absolutely shocking, and truly hope IS NOT true....
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None of the icon thing happened to me--both Tracktions work as advertized. Maybe it's an XP thing, I'm on 2k.

Tom

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Ezy Ryder wrote:Considering the demo restriction, how do you expect him to test for a "whereby upon render, whatever note is played first gets stuck" bug, when the demo doesn't let you render anything in the first place.

tkmattson, the only ones who could answer you are the beta testers, and so far they don't seem enclined to do so.
Um, also good to know. No render? Really? Even with noise bursts? How in the world are we supposed to find out if it's been fixed or not?

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tkmattson wrote:
Ezy Ryder wrote:Considering the demo restriction, how do you expect him to test for a "whereby upon render, whatever note is played first gets stuck" bug, when the demo doesn't let you render anything in the first place.

tkmattson, the only ones who could answer you are the beta testers, and so far they don't seem enclined to do so.
Um, also good to know. No render? Really? Even with noise bursts? How in the world are we supposed to find out if it's been fixed or not?
If you lose the attitude for long enough to describe the bug properly, I will happily test for it. FWIW I've been rendering all sorts of MIDI clips playing a variety of synths, and have had no problems at all..

(Tip: insulting Valley is not going to win you any friends among the beta-testers! :P )

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platinumears wrote:
tkmattson wrote:
Ezy Ryder wrote:Considering the demo restriction, how do you expect him to test for a "whereby upon render, whatever note is played first gets stuck" bug, when the demo doesn't let you render anything in the first place.

tkmattson, the only ones who could answer you are the beta testers, and so far they don't seem enclined to do so.
Um, also good to know. No render? Really? Even with noise bursts? How in the world are we supposed to find out if it's been fixed or not?
If you lose the attitude for long enough to describe the bug properly, I will happily test for it. FWIW I've been rendering all sorts of MIDI clips playing a variety of synths, and have had no problems at all..

(Tip: insulting Valley is not going to win you any friends among the beta-testers! :P )
I didn't insult him by the way, I DID say that I would have responded exactly the same as he did to me, EXCEPT for the extraneous circumstances. (If you're refering to the "my kind of scum" remark - that's actually a good thing - see "Empire Strikes Back" for reference) At any rate, it is the well documented (mentioned numerously by many other people than myself in sticky'd problem thread) issue, whereby when you render certain MIDI info, T1.6 would get stuck on the first note and hold it, but you would only notice that it happened upon render. Some of the VSTi's that had the most problems were anything by IK/SR, and some other various VSTi's. This problem had to be solved by adding a blank four bar measure BEFORE the beginning of the song, which solved the problem. So if I'm hearing you correctly this problem no longer exists? Why have I been hearing otherwise today, ESPECIALLY if you can't render? Is there some new first note issue?

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tkmattson wrote: Why have I been hearing otherwise today, ESPECIALLY if you can't render?
There's plenty of BS flying around at the moment.. :roll:

I did run across that one in T1 a couple of times, but cured it by simply slip-editing the start of the MIDI clip back by a small amount, and never considered it a big deal.. It's not happened to me since I started testing T2. :shrug:

If you want to be certain, prepare an edit (using a free synth that I can download if I don't have it already) that exhibits the problem, and send me an archive:

platinumears <at> hotmail <dot> com

I'll render it here and let you know what happens..

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platinumears wrote:
tkmattson wrote: Why have I been hearing otherwise today, ESPECIALLY if you can't render?
There's plenty of BS flying around at the moment.. :roll:

I did run across that one in T1 a couple of times, but cured it by simply slip-editing the start of the MIDI clip back by a small amount, and never considered it a big deal.. It's not happened to me since I started testing T2. :shrug:

If you want to be certain, prepare an edit (using a free synth that I can download if I don't have it already) that exhibits the problem, and send me an archive:

platinumears <at> hotmail <dot> com

I'll render it here and let you know what happens..
Just download Sampletank Free or Sonik Synth Free, unless you have one of them already. They were consistantly the ones (even the full versions) that people mentioned over and over, and probably make up the majority of what is the infamous "stuck note" issue. Anything will do, so long as it has a note at MIDI measure one beat one. Perhaps trying different note lengths as well would be cool just to double check. If this is just a rumor that I've been hearing it would be best to nip this one in the bud....thanks :D

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