FR - Groove Match Quantize Templates
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- KVRAF
- 3617 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from Bradford - The Armpit of Britain
Ok I know tracktion already has a groove quantize feature, but I am referring to a different function with the same name.
I.e. Create a groove quantize template from an existing midi-file, for instance from a midi file created by a rex file, or dragged in from something like microdicer - so that u could easily match up your own drum hits etc. to the ones in the rex file. In order for this to be implemented Tracktion would probably need a way to set a specific grid as in this feature request: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82640
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I've mentioned this a few times, but it's a feature i really like in reason - & have seen it applied in sx & think it is rather spiffing.
I.e. Create a groove quantize template from an existing midi-file, for instance from a midi file created by a rex file, or dragged in from something like microdicer - so that u could easily match up your own drum hits etc. to the ones in the rex file. In order for this to be implemented Tracktion would probably need a way to set a specific grid as in this feature request: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82640
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I've mentioned this a few times, but it's a feature i really like in reason - & have seen it applied in sx & think it is rather spiffing.
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
I'll second that!
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
I would use that feature (I used to use it in Cubase)
I'm not sure how it ties in with the grid FR though..?
I'm not sure how it ties in with the grid FR though..?
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
Actually, this could tie in with the beat-slicing FR. The "slices" could be used to create a groove template also.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3617 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from Bradford - The Armpit of Britain
It ties in because at the moment the grid snapping feature is dependent on the zoom level. what i'm proposing is that the snap could be (optionally?) independent of the zoom level & set to correspond to a groove template? taken from a midi file. For instance in sx (i believe) u can set the snap function to correspond to the groove template - so that with snap turned on when u nudge a note if will move to the next position determined by the groove template you are using. Does that make sense? it's a while since i've seen sx in action, but i can remember being impressed when a mate used this function to almost automatically line up some drum hits to correspond to a rex file - so he was recreating the loop in effect, but using his own sounds.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3617 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from Bradford - The Armpit of Britain
doesn't logic (& possibly sx also) allow one to do the same thing, but ripping the template from a sliced audio file also?
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
I know exactly what you're talking about. That would be a fabulous feature in Tractkion! A grid that conforms to a groove template.diverdee wrote:It ties in because at the moment the grid snapping feature is dependent on the zoom level. what i'm proposing is that the snap could be (optionally?) independent of the zoom level & set to correspond to a groove template? taken from a midi file. For instance in sx (i believe) u can set the snap function to correspond to the groove template - so that with snap turned on when u nudge a note if will move to the next position determined by the groove template you are using. Does that make sense? it's a while since i've seen sx in action, but i can remember being impressed when a mate used this function to almost automatically line up some drum hits to correspond to a rex file - so he was recreating the loop in effect, but using his own sounds.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3617 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from Bradford - The Armpit of Britain
I know i'm posting a few FR's, don't want it to seem like i'm down on tracktion, it is in fact the opposite - I believe that with some 'workflow' type additions like this it could be an extremely powerful app, whilst keeping the simplicity which attracted it to me in the first place. I jumped ship on steinberg when sx came out, theough I have used it in collaborations, & never really liked the look of cakewalk stuff - so i'm fervently hoping that tracktion can become the killer app that it has the potential to become.
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
I think SX did that. Extract groove template from audio...or something along that line. Very cool.diverdee wrote:doesn't logic (& possibly sx also) allow one to do the same thing, but ripping the template from a sliced audio file also?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3617 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from Bradford - The Armpit of Britain
ok - i made a mistake - with clip quantise turned on the notes do snap to the requisite quantise setting - do u know i've never actually used that function, just quantized groups of notes afterwards? So the feature i'm proposing is not as fundamental a change as I believed - it's just the ability to extract a quantise grid from a midi file/sliced audio file, save it as a user defined groove or quantize template & then apply it.

