The new finalmix, demo limitation?
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nuisance sonore nuisance sonore https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=40314
- KVRian
- 1088 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from 45° 31' 60N 73° 28' 60W
I was using the new Final Mix plugin in old T1, and the sound output would cut after a while, and it also cut the sound of rendered file after 1:17.
It took me the better part of an hour before I realised that the sound was cutting at the Final Mix output (set up on the master bus), and that's where those little jumping led graphics helped immensely or I probably still would be looking for the problem.
Soooo, I replaced Final Mix with the old version, and the problem went away.
So I ask, why make me waste precious time like this, why not better document limitation like this? It's awfully annoying. Furthermore, Final Mix is included in T1 and this new version is supposed to be only bug fix, so why limit this in the first place? The new plug-ins I can understand, but this I don't.
It took me the better part of an hour before I realised that the sound was cutting at the Final Mix output (set up on the master bus), and that's where those little jumping led graphics helped immensely or I probably still would be looking for the problem.
Soooo, I replaced Final Mix with the old version, and the problem went away.
So I ask, why make me waste precious time like this, why not better document limitation like this? It's awfully annoying. Furthermore, Final Mix is included in T1 and this new version is supposed to be only bug fix, so why limit this in the first place? The new plug-ins I can understand, but this I don't.
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
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- KVRAF
- 1600 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Seattle, WA
There shouldn't be any differences but the new Final Mix is a T2 plug and was tested with T2 only. We'll look into it though.
Ben
Ben
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nuisance sonore nuisance sonore https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=40314
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1088 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from 45° 31' 60N 73° 28' 60W
Update.
I got the same problem with Final Mix T1 version now. Worked on this song for about an hour, then output was cut. I could see the FM input led going up and down, but nothing on the output. The only thing I could do to get sound back was to delete Final Mix from the master bus. I then reloaded FM, reloaded my setting for it (I saved it this time) and it worked fine for about 20 minutes then it conked on me again.
This never happened to me before, but this project is quite extensive and CPU is redlining quite often and memory is very close to behing totally loaded, don't know if it has anything to do with it.
what to do now?
I got the same problem with Final Mix T1 version now. Worked on this song for about an hour, then output was cut. I could see the FM input led going up and down, but nothing on the output. The only thing I could do to get sound back was to delete Final Mix from the master bus. I then reloaded FM, reloaded my setting for it (I saved it this time) and it worked fine for about 20 minutes then it conked on me again.
This never happened to me before, but this project is quite extensive and CPU is redlining quite often and memory is very close to behing totally loaded, don't know if it has anything to do with it.
what to do now?
Quote of the day: "If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."--Elbert Hubbard 1856-1915
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- KVRAF
- 1714 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis
I have a similar problem using Vintage Warmer in the Master FX slot. If the CPU usage gets too high, the audio output drops until I reload the plug. Sometimes it drops the left side first, then the right
Oddly enough, this problem also asserts itself during rendering a total mix. I often have to pre-render other tracks first, before doing the full mix.
Oddly enough, this problem also asserts itself during rendering a total mix. I often have to pre-render other tracks first, before doing the full mix.
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- KVRist
- 199 posts since 12 Apr, 2005
Works fine for me. And I absolutely recommend using VintageWarmer in the master mix! I find it adds an incredible amount of "life" to everything that comes out of Tracktionbk wrote:I have a similar problem using Vintage Warmer in the Master FX slot.
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
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- KVRAF
- 1600 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Seattle, WA
So has anyone had this happen with T2?Ezy Ryder wrote:Update.
I got the same problem with Final Mix T1 version now. ...
Ben
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nuisance sonore nuisance sonore https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=40314
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1088 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from 45° 31' 60N 73° 28' 60W
Yep, just tried it this morning with T2 demo and the new FM version, same thing happened. Seems to happen when the CPU is redlining to the point of audio stuttering, then FM cut it's output (so if it's on the master buss, you get no sound at all anymore)and you can't get it back until you delete and reload FM. I can't try a render from T2 though.Beno wrote:So has anyone had this happen with T2?Ezy Ryder wrote:Update.
I got the same problem with Final Mix T1 version now. ...
Ben
Quote of the day: "If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."--Elbert Hubbard 1856-1915
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- KVRAF
- 1600 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Seattle, WA
OK, thanks for that. I'll give it a try and see if I can reproduce. I assume this is PC right?Ezy Ryder wrote:Yep, just tried it this morning with T2 demo and the new FM version, same thing happened. Seems to happen when the CPU is redlining to the point of audio stuttering, then FM cut it's output (so if it's on the master buss, you get no sound at all anymore)and you can't get it back until you delete and reload FM. I can't try a render from T2 though.Beno wrote:So has anyone had this happen with T2?Ezy Ryder wrote:Update.
I got the same problem with Final Mix T1 version now. ...
Ben
Ben
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nuisance sonore nuisance sonore https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=40314
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1088 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from 45° 31' 60N 73° 28' 60W
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Asus A7V333a mobo
Athlon XP 2.8
1 Gig DDR333
Audiophile 2496 @ 256 samples latency 48KHz
Radeon 8500 pro
Silicon image SATA raid controler
WD IDE 80G 7200rpm 8Mg cache
WD IDE 160G 7200rpm 8Mg cache
2 WD SATA 160G in raid 0 config.
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- KVRAF
- 1600 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Seattle, WA
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
ezy? do you have diffarint audio ruted to different asio outs?
i have noticed most vst plugins in the master bus are not that happy in this situation,
witch to me is not a suprise becouse i dont know of any other host that will let you do this atall!
for me it also defeats the hole point of splitting my sounds to different outputs
i would render the track to audio & then use final mix on the renderd file

i have noticed most vst plugins in the master bus are not that happy in this situation,
witch to me is not a suprise becouse i dont know of any other host that will let you do this atall!
for me it also defeats the hole point of splitting my sounds to different outputs
i would render the track to audio & then use final mix on the renderd file
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nuisance sonore nuisance sonore https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=40314
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1088 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from 45° 31' 60N 73° 28' 60W
I had to check for that one, djsubject, but no; all tracks are routed to either sub track themselves routed to the main track which is routed to the default audio out (SPDIF in my case), or directly to main track; nothing routed to a different ASIO output than the default one. Could have happened though.
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