Drum Editor ! I need one reallllllllly bad !

[alexibm]

Hi !
I raised a question about drum maps, a week ago. Reply was NO !
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I record all of my MIDI drum parts using Roland V-Drums, but it is impossible to edit it later on using the PianoRoll. In cubase it is very simple, it has Drum Editor !

Any suggestions ?

[AD80]

You'll get used to it after a while.

[Lunch Money]

If the reply was "no" then, it's not likely to have changed in a mere 2 weeks.

I think the word "impossible" is an overstatement. They're just two different ways of seeing the same information, particularly since your notes are input using your drums. (ie. some people want drum editors because they offer shortcuts for creating flams, rolls, etc., which you won't need)

Greg

[rpc9943]

zoom it in and nu midi editor = drum editor

[trs]

Hi !
I raised a question about drum maps, a week ago. Reply was NO !
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I record all of my MIDI drum parts using Roland V-Drums, but it is impossible to edit it later on using the PianoRoll. In cubase it is very simple, it has Drum Editor !

Any suggestions ?

More info, what exactly you want to do?

Once the MIDI info is recorded in the track, you can edit it by using the MIDI editor...

[spacefox]

For drum editing in T2 (copied from a thread who got lost somewhere in the midst of T2 madness)

* Set note length to something around 1/8 beat.
* If possible, set the clip to ch. 10. When zooming in, GM drum names will show up on the piano roll.
* Use the line tool and snap resoltion to enter repetetive drums.
e.g., if you want 1/4 note hi-hats for 4 bars, change the resolution to 1 beat and draw a line 4 bars in length.

This gives you a decent drum editor with a constant drum map (GM).

[spacefox]

A drum map workaround (copied from the same thread). A bit of a hussle, but if you use a certain drum map a lot, it could be worth it.

This is use the fact that when putting the Tracktion Sampler on a track, the piano roll displays the names of the samples in the sampler (instead of notes/ GM drums).



1) make an "blank" wave file (just open a wave editor and save).
2) Load the sampler filter.
3) Click 'add' and load the the blank sample you made.
4) Set the desired note (e.g. C1) make sure the highest and lowest key are the same.
5) Rename the sample inside the sampler, using the rename button.
6) Repeat steps 3-5 for every drum in your drum map.
7) save as a preset.

Now put the sampler before your drum instrument of choice. The Piano roll will show the names you chose in the T sampler (the sampler is thru, so now probs there).



This only affects the names issue. It does not allow you to remap the notes themselves. This could be made with a note-remapper plugin (is there one?) that will be paired with the sampler in a rack. Again, mapping is worth it only if you use a certain map a lot (and it is quite different from GM).

[spacefox]

One more on the subject of drum maps:

The clumsy sampler workaround could be simplified if someone would write a drum-mapping plugin. This will be possible only if there is a way of sending notes names to T's piano roll in the VST spec (I believe Jules ones said it is possible).

[IIRs]

A good tip for drum editing in Tracktion is the 'select all notes of the same pitch' option: once you have all your snares (for example) selected you can edit velocities in a simlilar manner to a cubase drum lane..

[alexibm]

For drum editing in T2 (copied from a thread who got lost somewhere in the midst of T2 madness)

* Set note length to something around 1/8 beat.
* If possible, set the clip to ch. 10. When zooming in, GM drum names will show up on the piano roll.
* Use the line tool and snap resoltion to enter repetetive drums.
e.g., if you want 1/4 note hi-hats for 4 bars, change the resolution to 1 beat and draw a line 4 bars in length.

This gives you a decent drum editor with a constant drum map (GM).

Hi everyone, thanks for replys!
Spacefox I will take a look at the solution you have presented above.
But editing drums in PianoRoll is hell..... I have tried it in Cubase before. But we will see.

If someone will make a commercialy available DrumEditor I am willing to pay.

[ionized]

I'm new to this so I may be way off base here. Can you use the step editor in DK+ to do what you want to do?

[flanneljammies]

How about StepChild?

[FoxV]

Hi !
I raised a question about drum maps, a week ago. Reply was NO !
--------------

I record all of my MIDI drum parts using Roland V-Drums, but it is impossible to edit it later on using the PianoRoll. In cubase it is very simple, it has Drum Editor !

Any suggestions ?

I use the TD-6, and I've found T1 and T2's pianorolls to work just fine (for me). But I don't have extensive experience with drum editors, so maybe I'm missing something!

[koolkeys]

I use DR-008 with Slicey Drummer and Fill-In Drummer, and it's great. The Slicey and Fill-in are essentially very enhanced drum editors, with more options than any drum editor I've ever seen. Depends on how much you want to pay, but the whole lot will cost you maybe less than $200, and you get 3GB of drums and ALOT of MIDI files too. Very good deal.

Koolkeys

[Adrian Earnshaw Music]

I'll 2nd flanneljammies' answer. Stepchild is a good midi note editor which can double up as a drum editor. I do most of my drum tracks this way and is far easier than messing with the midi editor.

Goto this link and scroll to the bottom of the page:-

http://subminimal.org/tools.php

Regards

Adrian