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- KVRAF
- 2495 posts since 18 May, 2004 from ATL-USA
Zzounds.com has it for $149 and you get a $30 rebate from Mackie for being a NFR user. I'm getting it next paycheck
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- KVRist
- 207 posts since 27 Mar, 2005 from Spain
Zzounds COS has the following;
"We do not ship outside of the U.S. or to P.O. boxes or to U.S. territories such as Guam, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands. We do ship to APOs and FPOs at our normal low rates, though oversized items may be ineligible. We do ship to Alaska and Hawaii, though surcharges may apply since ground service is not available to those states."
I'm not picking Zzounds out - this is a very common clause to be found with many USA based dealers - but I do wonder why this is? I can see why they wouldn't want to ship a Fender Twin Reverb - but a box of software? It's no more difficult to pop in the post to Timbuctoo, than it would be to Alaska or Hawaii. Some USA companies can (and will) sell anywhere in the world - why is it so many seem not to be able to accomplish this simple task?
Manufacturers witter on about the 'Global Market' - indeed, many of them use this as their main excuse to get involved in off-shore manufacturing ("keeping manufacturing costs down in the face of the global market"). Farming out all this work overseas costs the local economy in terms of jobs etc., but where's the return for the potential customer if they can't purchase the product globally?
"We do not ship outside of the U.S. or to P.O. boxes or to U.S. territories such as Guam, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands. We do ship to APOs and FPOs at our normal low rates, though oversized items may be ineligible. We do ship to Alaska and Hawaii, though surcharges may apply since ground service is not available to those states."
I'm not picking Zzounds out - this is a very common clause to be found with many USA based dealers - but I do wonder why this is? I can see why they wouldn't want to ship a Fender Twin Reverb - but a box of software? It's no more difficult to pop in the post to Timbuctoo, than it would be to Alaska or Hawaii. Some USA companies can (and will) sell anywhere in the world - why is it so many seem not to be able to accomplish this simple task?
Manufacturers witter on about the 'Global Market' - indeed, many of them use this as their main excuse to get involved in off-shore manufacturing ("keeping manufacturing costs down in the face of the global market"). Farming out all this work overseas costs the local economy in terms of jobs etc., but where's the return for the potential customer if they can't purchase the product globally?
Graeme
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
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- KVRist
- 207 posts since 27 Mar, 2005 from Spain
It's the buyer who ends up paying these costs though - it's not like the vendor has to get involved, other than to declare what the package contains and its commercial value.todd sweetland wrote:i work for fedex, shipping software has alot to do with customs n clearing... in foreign countries, thats just the nature of the beast..
When I have stuff Fedex'd from the USA, it comes with a bill for customs, import duty, local taxes (and anything else they can dream up
It's not rocket science and there are companies who seem to able to do this without any problems - I just wonder why it is that so many avoid the issue and lose business by not dealing outside the USA.
Graeme
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- KVRian
- 1088 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from 45° 31' 60N 73° 28' 60W
I think it has to do with behing an authorized dealer or not. For instance, MuicianFriend will not ship items made by Yamaha to Canada stating that Yamaha do not allow them to since we have a distributor here; it kind of make sense since it would be in effect bypassing the regular distribution channel, but Music123 will ship the same item no problems. Go figures.Graeme wrote:
It's not rocket science and there are companies who seem to able to do this without any problems - I just wonder why it is that so many avoid the issue and lose business by not dealing outside the USA.
We're kind of lucky here in Canada in that items are generally priced about the same has if we were to order from the states, once exchange rate is accounted for, sometime even cheaper (I paid $125.00 less for Vegas from a retailer in Montreal than the best price I could get in the US), other countries are not so lucky unfortunately. But we're lacking in choices most of the time and special orders might take months from regular order channels, so ordering from the US make sense in such a situation.
Quote of the day: "If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."--Elbert Hubbard 1856-1915
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- KVRian
- 693 posts since 21 Oct, 2003 from Madrid
Ask me about it. Once I had a Mesa/Boogie amp shipped directly from Petaluma, California (where the factory is) to Venezuela and it almost cost me as much as the amp itselfGraeme wrote:When I have stuff Fedex'd from the USA, it comes with a bill for customs, import duty, local taxes (and anything else they can dream up).
One more thing. Wasn´t the rebate offer valid until june 2005? I think I read something about that. Also the rebate for non USA residents is still not worked out so I don´t think any shop will take it.
Still. I have a few concerns about T2 and Mackie and will wait until the smoke clears
Good luck in getting your boxes people.
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 28 Mar, 2005 from Dover NH USA
Hello, how are you getting the $30. rebate? I am a NFR owner and I called Mackie- they say I am not eligible.freeztar wrote:Zzounds.com has it for $149 and you get a $30 rebate from Mackie for being a NFR user. I'm getting it next paycheck.
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- KVRAF
- 2874 posts since 22 Oct, 2002 from "somewhere between digital and analog"
Did you register? If the NFR shows up in your My Mackie, you shoud have recieved an e-mail with the rebate form!

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- KVRAF
- 3617 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from Bradford - The Armpit of Britain
If you live in the U.S. you should get a rebate Petelab, as mentioned above.
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 28 Mar, 2005 from Dover NH USA
I have registered on the Mackie site.And my license number shows up on the mackie site. But I haven't rec'd any email. I purchased an echo layla 3G soundcard bundled with traction 1. Is this a NFR version?DHR53 wrote:Did you register? If the NFR shows up in your My Mackie, you shoud have recieved an e-mail with the rebate form!
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- KVRist
- 164 posts since 3 Apr, 2005 from Roanoke, VA
Maybe not - if it's an NFR, then NFR is in the license number, I believe. Might be different for bundled versions.
- KVRAF
- 2874 posts since 22 Oct, 2002 from "somewhere between digital and analog"
Yes it is... That's how I got mine! (Echo Gina 3G) When did you register it? I had registered the old T1 free version too though, so no telling which one generated the rebate form... Hmmm?Petelab wrote:I have registered on the Mackie site.And my license number shows up on the mackie site. But I haven't rec'd any email. I purchased an echo layla 3G soundcard bundled with traction 1. Is this a NFR version?DHR53 wrote:Did you register? If the NFR shows up in your My Mackie, you shoud have recieved an e-mail with the rebate form!
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 28 Mar, 2005 from Dover NH USA
[/quote]Yes it is... That's how I got mine! (Echo Gina 3G) When did you register it? I had registered the old T1 free version too though, so no telling which one generated the rebate form... Hmmm?
I registered it in November 2004.It must be your free version that got you the rebate. Thanks for your response, Pete

