linear knob movement in VSTI's not working ?

[yul]

Hi,

just a quick note to say that I cant get linear knob movement working in most VST's.

I dont think there is an option to switch between linear and circular in T2.

This is important because it makes ALL the difference in the workflow of programming a VSTI.

Thanks !

[Lunch Money]

This is completely dependent on the plug-in and has nothing to do with Tracktion whatsoever.

[cold c]

This is completely dependent on the plug-in and has nothing to do with Tracktion whatsoever.

Some plugins can do this independently, but other plugins don't include the option in their own interface as they adhere to the main host setting (using getKnobMode() in VSTGUI etc.)

I don't use Tracktion, so I don't know if it has such a global setting. According to the docs it should be selectable between "circular, relativ circular, or linear".

[Lunch Money]

OK, I'm wrong then . However, I can't think of any plug-ins that rely on the main host setting, and I've never come across a plug-in that failed to work in linear mode when it 'should'. All programmers that I'm familiar with always choose to call the knob mode in the plug-in itself.

What VSTi are being used?

[pethu]

OK, I'm wrong then . However, I can't think of any plug-ins that rely on the main host setting, and I've never come across a plug-in that failed to work in linear mode when it 'should'. All programmers that I'm familiar with always choose to call the knob mode in the plug-in itself.

What VSTi are being used?

As mentioned in another post, Arturia's Moog synths seem to have this problem (I'm using the Modular V). In the stand-alone application, there's a choice between linear and rotary; in Tracktion, but also in other hosts like energyXT, it goes to rotary mode regardless. You have to hold down Alt to get linear mode, which is a bit of a bummer.

[yul]

Anyways, cubase and probably other hosts have a setting allowing to switch between linear and circular. That makes the whole difference !

Just trying out a few synthedit VSTI's and without linear mode, its a bummer to program.

The only VST that I know of that cannot process linear movements was PPG2.V which was one of the early VSTI's.

All other VST's can use this linear movement if the host decides to...

[Lunch Money]

OK, I've learned something new, then. In the rare plug-in I find with circular movement, I've always thought the onus was on the developers to "fix" it.

Quelle dommage.

[dealwithit]

I don't use Tracktion, so I don't know if it has such a global setting. According to the docs it should be selectable between "circular, relativ circular, or linear".

Should be selectable as an option in Tracktion? Where?

I would love to be able to change some of those stubborn circular knobs to linear!

[cold c]

I don't use Tracktion, so I don't know if it has such a global setting. According to the docs it should be selectable between "circular, relativ circular, or linear".

Should be selectable as an option in Tracktion? Where?

I would love to be able to change some of those stubborn circular knobs to linear!

Sorry I should have clarified, according to the Steinberg documentation for VSTGUI, VST-MA, Cubase blah etc, the values used in the Steinberg hosts and the SDK docs are "circular, relativ circular, or linear" (hence the spelling of 'relativ' in the SDK docs ).

BTW, even if a host setting is available there is still no guarantee the plugin will adhere to it.

[dealwithit]

Thanks, I knew there was no setting in T to do this. Damn, now you make me want it (although, as you say, the plugs that I want to use it for won't necessarily adhere to the host's setting).

[Lunch Money]

Although I was wrong that a plug-in ALONE determines the behaviour, I do believe that many of the circular-knob plug-ins have it hard-coded and aren't the result of the plug-in defaulting to host setting.

[dealwithit]

Yeah, I think I got it now. Tracktion doesn't care how it's coded, it works however the programmer decided it should. In Cubase and maybe others, you can set it to linear, circular, whatever you want (I own Cubase and did not know that).

Makes me wonder: what is T's default? If it's not hard coded by the plugin developer?

[yul]

The defaut in tracktion is leaved to te default of the plug.

I've tried quite a few plugs and nearly all of them are able to be switched to linear.

[dealwithit]

What if the plug doesn't specify? I'm thinking T's default is linear, because if a plugin doesn't provide a GUI, you get the default GUI that uses linear sliders.

I've tried quite a few plugs and nearly all of them are able to be switched to linear.

How are you switching them to linear?

[dealwithit]

oops, double post.