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nightowlgk3
nightowlgk3
20 September 2016 at 12:33am

I've been testing it for a few days with the immediate hope of using it on my laptop. Keyscape is not easy to just install and play on a laptop with 8GB RAM....... 8GB RAM is the minimum....and I have been having problems with that and a very fast PC. Macbook Pro users might fare better with 8GB, certainly 16GB RAM would be great, but that is hard to come by on a laptop.

BTW, I own every Spectrasonics product since the beginning with Stylus RMX, Trilogy, Trillian, Atmosphere, Omnisphere.....I use them all on my studio i7 desktop with 32GB RAM and RME interface. I haven't even started testing Keyscape on the desktop, I really wanted it working for upcoming live use.

With my Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro i7 and 8GB RAM, 512 SSD, Win 8.1 - using Cantabile 3 as a host. This system works great with Ravenscroft UVI, LOUNGE LIZARD and Kontakt live at 128 or 256 samples, but Omnisphere does put a demand on the system.

I'm having glitches in Keyscape at 128 samples no matter what I do.....even at 256 with "Thinning" on and voices set to 14 it will sometimes just choke. Obviously, that is too few voices to play most styles. I've tried 2 different interfaces: USB Motu Ultralite Hybrid and NI Traktor 2 MkII.....Then, ironically, I get best results with the built in headphone jack and ASIO4ALL driver at 256. I just don't know if I can trust this C7 in live performance. The Rhodes seems to be better.

This seems to be the deal with Spectrasonics, great sounds, but high demand on RAM and CPU.

Having said that, The C7 is beautiful, clear, resonant and not as bright as you would expect. Very inspiring to play. The Ravenscroft is a bit brighter....and still my overall favorite over all the other "working" VST pianos I own: Garritan CFX (2nd favorite), Galaxy Vintage D (NI Grandeur), Ivory Italian or American Steinway.

This reminds me a little of the unplayable Quantum Leap Pianos with PLAY interface I bought 6 years ago. Wasted $450. Also, Gospel Keys/Neo-Soul Keys (Rhodes) was a glitch prone, RAM and Processor demanding UVI based VST.

So, if Ravenscroft/UVI can make a very deep player that is very efficient, and includes a bunch of efx, why can't Spectrasonics do the same, since their Steam engine succeeded their using UVI for Atmosphere? Ravenscroft even scaled down the whole library to flac and it only takes up 5GB with 4 stereo mic positions to choose from and mix.

The C7 on Keyscape, even with Thinning feature - as it is now implemented- is not enough to scale it down to run glitch free on most systems, in my opinion. They should really rework some C7 patches to be "lite" versions, with more voices capability.

Any users who have better results, please chime in with your system and settings.

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nmortho
nmortho
28 January 2017 at 11:35pm

I have been using Keyscape for the past two weeks and I agree that I cannot get it to work on my Windows 10 laptop no matter what I do. I have the newest Surface Book with Performance Base which has been hailed as the most powerful laptop on the planet. Here are the specs: i7 processor running at 2.81 GHZ, 16 GB of RAM, and a 1TB SSD. I am using Bitwig Studios as my host, a NI Audio 6 interface, and both a NI Komplete Kontrol S49 and a Roland RD-800 as my MIDI controllers. Even if I use Thinning, set the voices to 16, up the samples to 256, and try everything else under the sun, I still get audio pops, crackles, and dropout that make using the software impossible. The C7 sounds great when it is not popping, but I can't perform with it under these conditions. Spectrasonics has been working with me but has not been able to find a solution. I also own Omnisphere 2 and have no problems with that. Does anyone have suggestions about how I can get this to work?

nmortho
nmortho
28 January 2017 at 11:36pm

I have been using Keyscape for the past two weeks and I agree that I cannot get it to work on my Windows 10 laptop no matter what I do. I have the newest Surface Book with Performance Base which has been hailed as the most powerful laptop on the planet. Here are the specs: i7 processor running at 2.81 GHZ, 16 GB of RAM, and a 1TB SSD. I am using Bitwig Studios as my host, a NI Audio 6 interface, and both a NI Komplete Kontrol S49 and a Roland RD-800 as my MIDI controllers. Even if I use Thinning, set the voices to 16, up the samples to 256, and try everything else under the sun, I still get audio pops, crackles, and dropout that make using the software impossible. The C7 sounds great when it is not popping, but I can't perform with it under these conditions. Spectrasonics has been working with me but has not been able to find a solution. I also own Omnisphere 2 and have no problems with that. Does anyone have suggestions about how I can get this to work?

blouie
blouie
17 February 2017 at 6:25pm

I came here (to kvraudio) to try to find information on a suitable VST host for Keyscape for Windows 10 (Lenovo 4th Generation Intel Core i7-4710HQ Processor with 16GB RAM and 512 SSD). Interesting to see these reviews.

I purchased Keyscape a couple weeks ago and got it installed this past weekend. From a latency perspective, it works OK in Sonar (Roland Studio-Capture audio drivers); HOWEVER, get sound drop-offs fairly frequently. Sonar is not a practical solution for me for live playing.

I made an assumption that Keyscape worked stand-alone (like NI's Kontakt). Very frankly, I should have looked closer when I purchased Keyscape. The product description really did not address this. If I knew it didn't work stand-alone I would have never bought it! It is a wonderful virtual instrument; I've been a huge fan of Eric Persing from his Roland days and his then partnership with Roland. Unfortunately Keyscape is useless to me - I use SAVIHost for a lot of VIs and never have any issues but with Keyscape, I can't get the latency to be acceptable (Roland Studio-Capture or ASIO4ALL drivers. VERY FRUSTRATING.

I'm hoping I can get a refund at this point.

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