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Having issues with stock reverb :(
Super loud noise that blows feels like it will blow out speakers...
Feels like it happens if high cpu happens.
Requires panic button to reset
64 bit waveform 11 Pro.
Running
Room Size 11
Damping 50%
Wet -12
Dry 0
Width 100%

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Image Line's Drumaxx (https://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synths/Drumaxx/) doesn't remember its state. Re-openig edit sets Drumaxx to the default state. Loading preset solves the problem for one session only. Unfortunately it's a paid plugin. (My other DAWs recall Drumaxx without any issue.)
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H

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Helix Native (V1.92) worked fine until yesterday. (WF10 pro). Though freezing that track was always gone reopening WV.
Now my last recording kills WV instantly, it restarts and shuts down when i try to open the Edit. Used the VST3-Version, reinstalled with VST2-Version , still not running.

Rescanning results in Helix marked red "failed to initilalise correctly".
How can i recover my edit?
Cheers
Marc

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UnionS8 wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:12 am Image Line's Drumaxx (https://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synths/Drumaxx/) doesn't remember its state. Re-openig edit sets Drumaxx to the default state. Loading preset solves the problem for one session only. Unfortunately it's a paid plugin. (My other DAWs recall Drumaxx without any issue.)
I can confirm this. I tested in WF9 and T6 and it was the same. Drumaxx in can't restore settings in Tracktion or Waveform.

I also have problems with restoring settings of other Image-Line VSTs but that seems to be a WF11-only issue. Sakura and Toxic Biohazard don't seem to load settings from a WF11 edit properly. WF9 loads them without any problems.

The SliceEx GUI can only be opened once. After that it becomes just a tiny little black rectangle.

Image-Line plugins are special. I'm thinking of actually submitting to TSC but I don't know if I should focus on just one issue or all of them...
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Windows 10
Waveform Version 10.4.2 64-bit

I am having problems using the VST3 versions of the following Softube plugins: Modular, Heartbeat, TSAR-1R, Vintage Amp Room.

Waveform detects the plugins normally and loads without crashing. The VST version work as expected, but lack some functionality. VST3 version appear to load normally, and the GUI is responsive, but no output is produced.

All of the VST and VST3 versions pass validation ("ALL TESTS PASSED"). I don't have the knowledge to interpret the body of the validation reports. Here is the report for TSAR-1R as an example:
pluginval v0.2.7 - JUCE v5.4.7
Started validating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\TSAR-1R Reverb.vst3
Random seed: 0xaf66f1
Validation started: 14 Jul 2020 9:49:22am

Strictness level: 5
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Starting test: pluginval / Scan for known types: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\TSAR-1R Reverb.vst3...
Num types found: 1

Testing plugin: VST3-TSAR-1R Reverb-da4a016a-db769980
Softube: TSAR-1R Reverb v2.4.96
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Open plugin (cold)...

Time taken to open plugin (cold): 1 sec
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Open plugin (warm)...

Time taken to open plugin (warm): 973 ms
Running tests 1 times
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Plugin info...

Plugin name: TSAR-1R Reverb
Alternative names: TSAR-1R Reverb
SupportsDoublePrecision: no
Reported latency: 0
Reported taillength: inf

Time taken to run test: 0
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Plugin programs...
Num programs: 0
All program names checked

Time taken to run test: 0
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Editor...

Time taken to open editor (cold): 794 ms
Time taken to open editor (warm): 306 ms

Time taken to run test: 1 sec
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Open editor whilst processing...

Time taken to run test: 892 ms
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Audio processing...
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [64]
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [128]
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [256]
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [512]
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [1024]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [64]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [128]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [256]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [512]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [1024]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [64]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [128]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [256]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [512]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [1024]

Time taken to run test: 55 ms
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Plugin state...

Time taken to run test: 0
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Automation...
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [64] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [128] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [256] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [512] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [44100] and block size [1024] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [64] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [128] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [256] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [512] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [48000] and block size [1024] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [64] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [128] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [256] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [512] and sub-block size [32]
Testing with sample rate [96000] and block size [1024] and sub-block size [32]

Time taken to run test: 10 ms
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Editor Automation...

Time taken to run test: 1 sec
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Automatable Parameters...

Time taken to run test: 0
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Basic bus...
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Listing available buses...
Inputs:
Named layouts: Mono, Stereo
Discrete layouts: Discrete #1, Discrete #2
Outputs:
Named layouts: Mono, Stereo
Discrete layouts: Discrete #1, Discrete #2
Main bus num input channels: 2
Main bus num output channels: 2
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Enabling all buses...
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Disabling non-main busses...
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Restoring default layout...
Main bus num input channels: 2
Main bus num output channels: 2

Time taken to run test: 1 sec
All tests completed successfully
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Starting test: pluginval / Editor DPI Awareness...
Testing opening Editor with DPI Awareness disabled

Time taken to run test: 774 ms

Time taken to run all tests: 10 secs
All tests completed successfully

Finished validating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\TSAR-1R Reverb.vst3
ALL TESTS PASSED
I appreciate that Softube does not test its plugins in Waveform and is unlikely to address this from their side. Hugely grateful for any suggestions.

Harry

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Hi I found a couple of minor issues when working with Xfer Nerve in Waveform Pro 11 x64 on Windows 10.
  • Tooltips on pads not showing
  • Clicking in Nerve plugin window blocks Waveform hotkeys
The first one is east to recreate as you just load Nerve up in Waveform then hover the mouse cursor over one of the pads and it should show a tooltip, but doesn't show anything.

The second one can be recreated by clicking anywhere within the Nerve then press space bar and I would expect Waveform to playback, but it seems like Nerve is blocking the hotkey. If I click anywhere else in the Waveform main window and then press space bar it then works correctly.

I don't seem to have these issues in FLStudio so I'm guessing it's Waveform related?

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Found another one with TAL-Software's TAL-Sampler where you drag a sample from the files panel to the layer it just adds the sample on to the arrange view like the plugin window doesn't exist. In FLStudio the layer lights up when you drag the sample over to signify you are dropping a sample.

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Alas back to strike vst, I had no issues in w10 running strike however in w11 it plays back fine, but renders out of synch. Its not even out of time but the rendered version bears no resemblance to what you hear whilst working on the tune.

My workaround is to use the inbuilt midi generator in strike to get the midi (having to quantise and delete two beats at the start of the midi track) and play it back through strike. It works but is time consuming and strike worked fine in w10.

Anyone else experiencing this?

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VST3 Amplesound Metal serie : pitchbend and modwheel don’t work with Waveform...
(It works with Cakewalk)

VST2s work.
Waveform Pro 12.5.11, Windows 10

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boomt wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:26 pm Found another one with TAL-Software's TAL-Sampler where you drag a sample from the files panel to the layer it just adds the sample on to the arrange view like the plugin window doesn't exist. In FLStudio the layer lights up when you drag the sample over to signify you are dropping a sample.
I think that drag and drop from the Files panel only works for TSC's own plugins*, not 3rd party. You should be able to drag and drop from the OS's file browser into 3rd party plugins.

It's a limitation for sure, but it's not a bug in either TAL-Sampler of Waveform as far as I can tell.

* It works for Sampler, Multi Sampler, Drum Sampler and Micro Drum Sampler.
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pough wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:51 pm I think that drag and drop from the Files panel only works for TSC's own plugins*, not 3rd party. You should be able to drag and drop from the OS's file browser into 3rd party plugins.

It's a limitation for sure, but it's not a bug in either TAL-Sampler of Waveform as far as I can tell.

* It works for Sampler, Multi Sampler, Drum Sampler and Micro Drum Sampler.
I found a fix for this. If you use the folder icon from the project browser it will work correctly. I think by dragging this it is just sending a traditional file drag and drop message to the plugin rather than the one that waveform uses.

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boomt wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:37 am If you use the folder icon from the project browser it will work correctly.
Huh. That's something I wish I had known years ago. Thanks for that!
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A plugin by Organic Drum Loops, OCK-VST. Free drum plugin, is only vst3, on mac: crashes on reopening project when default settings are changed and saved. Need to be disabled to open project again. On windows: does not crash, but changes to settings are not saved on reopening.

This is Waveform 9 on windows 10 and macbook pro, Catalina

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Problem with the Korg Wavestation Plugin on windows, there is no GUI available.

i reported this to the support nearly a month ago with all the specs

all plugIns, including Wavestation plugin, runs fine in reaper on the same machine.
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Have you tried un-sandboxing it?
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