Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

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179 posts since 8 Nov, 2014

Post Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:29 am

Nimrod7 wrote:Hey guys,

It may mentioned already, but how you work with Adaptiverb?
Once I add it to a bus, Logic becomes very laggy due to latency, that is impossible to compose anything from that point on.
I can add it with the song is done, but is kind of useless that way since I can't hear it when composing.

How you work with it?

Yes, this can be an issue as the latency is pretty huge. It depends on what you are doing if using a different plug will help because the sound of Adaptiverb can be a big part of why you have it there in the first place, e.g. with the resynthesis options you could have a choral flavour reverb over guitars or strings that becomes quite an important element (usually by accident for me) so vanilla reverbs can't replace that.

I typically pop it into 'live mode' so the DAW is usable and then with luck I'll remember to turn it off before print. In fairness with drones it doesn't matter so much, just dial in your pre-delay and off you go, the proper high latency mode shouldn't be a problem once you are mixing rather than playing but it can get weird having a latency as large as this. I don't know how it works in other DAWs but I have found it helps to deactivate and reactivate the plugin in Ableton to get it to poll for the new latency value if you've changed it. In general I'll use it as an insert and then freeze & flatten once I'm happy with the sound so mixing is faster (mostly by avoiding the endless tweaking and fuckaboutery that I'm prone to do).

Here's the manual http://www.zynaptiq.com/fileadmin/resou ... 10.pdf.zip on it:
ADAPTIVERB does some heavy mathematics. More important than the raw amount of
calculations required is the fact that it needs to look at a certain amount of input signal to do
what it does. This translates into a noticeable processing delay of up to 11264 samples. The
actual amount depends on which modules are used, and is spread out over the components of
ADAPTIVERB as follows:

• BIONIC SUSTAIN SYNTH with ALLPASS reverb: 4096 samples
• RAY-TRACING REVERB: 3072 samples
• HCF: 4096 samples !
So basically, the minimum latency achievable is 4096 samples, as the BIONIC SUSTAIN
RESYNTH, being the heart of the plugin, is always active. Using RAY-TRACING REVERB instead
of ALLPASS, for example, increases the latency to 7168 samples. SUSTAIN & ALLPASS plus
HCF weighs in at 8192 samples.

ADAPTIVERB features a LIVE MODE, switchable using the little clock shaped button in the
header bar. When in LIVE mode, the plugin will report zero latency to the host, and disables its
internal dry path delay. As a result, the dry path is latency free, and the effect signal will be
late by the amount of samples that corresponds to the combination of modules used – and,
most importantly, the latency compensation of your DAW does not need to move around all
other tracks. Use this mode for example if you want to play virtual instruments live, or capture
a live input – or if you are using a Pre-Delay setting in the same ballpark as the plugin latency
anyway (make sure to adjust the Pre Delay accordingly). Obviously, the fact that the reverb
tail is late makes this mode most useful with long tails and a REVERB MIX of 100%.

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31615 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:38 am

Just downloaded the 1.1.1 installer but the pkg is stuck on the 'Verifying...' dialogue. Tried quitting it and restarting several times.

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1705 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:43 am

Hmm, 1.1.1 ? What changes ?

Neon Breath
3668 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Post Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:55 am

c_voltage wrote:Hmm, 1.1.1 ? What changes ?
No idea, I searched on their website for a log or somehting, didn't find the list of the changes on the update. Same thing for Morph, it's updated but can't find the info.

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641 posts since 26 May, 2008 from Iceland.

Post Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:33 am

Look's like it's just adding Vst3 to me as that is the only info they give.
"People are stupid" Gegard Mousasi.

6327 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:35 am

what settings would you suggest for master bus maybe to glue the mix a bit? :)
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3824 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:58 am

masterhiggins wrote:Sounds great but the CPU usage on my quad i7 mbp makes it impractical to use with my usual workflow (even with a raised buffer). I thought DIVA was the highest CPU plug on my system. Adaptiverb makes it look like Hive.
I had to migrate from a 2011 17" MBP 4-core i7 to a 2009 MacPro upgraded to 12-core 3GHz XEON. My projects were taxing my MBP to the point that unfreezing on tracks i needed to work with and re-freezing etc was too much. Adapiverb contributed to this. But, if you want to use the latest tech you have to generally have the capability to do so.

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4811 posts since 23 Aug, 2014 from Boston/Cambridge

Post Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:28 pm

Still very much in love with Adaptiverb (and the ZAP bundle). Utterly unique.

934 posts since 29 Sep, 2006

Post Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:11 am

Fleer wrote:Still very much in love with Adaptiverb (and the ZAP bundle). Utterly unique.
Great reverb, lots of CPU cycles but great sounding.
--After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.

-Aldous Huxley

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15310 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Mon May 27, 2019 10:47 am

Processing a granular e-bow patch from Falcon AIR with a HCF custom patch in Adaptiverb.


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15310 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Mon May 27, 2019 5:36 pm

Stepping through 21 custom Adaptiverb drone presets.


Neon Breath
3668 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:00 am

Adaptiverb updated! :D

What's new in 1.2.0:

Added 75 new artist presets by Simon Stockhausen and Julius Selbach.
Added locking for DRY/WET MIX, and LIVE & PREVIEW modes, to keep their current value when loading presets.
Added GUI zoom with a range of 70-200%.
macOS: Fixed random preset sort order on APFS-formatted SSD volumes.
macOS: Fixed AU sometimes not being seen before a system reboot on High Sierra and newer.
Updated to latest PACE components.
Updated Kitty framework to latest version.

2176 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:03 am

Happy about this update!

313 posts since 13 Jan, 2012 from In the studio, in front of computer.

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:18 am

Heh, you're faster than me :-)


But FINALLY, we got you guys the Dry/Wet lock. You can also lock LIVE and PREVIEW modes 8as these are likely to be preferences you won't want to change once you set them up).

Also, zoom for the UI in a range of 70-200 %. So 4k and 13" users may now have more fun.

And a whole bunch of awesome new presets by Simon Stockhausen (aka patchpool) and Julius Selbach.

https://www.zynaptiq.com/adaptiverb/ada ... downloads/
Zynaptiq - Audio Software Based On Artificial Intelligence Technology, makers of PITCHMAP: Real-Time Polyphonic Pitch Correction And Mapping.

Neon Breath
3668 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:21 am

The UI resolutions and new presets are fantastic. Awesome update!

Thanks a lot. Not back into my man cave for deep droning...

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