has T2 an internal audio editor?

[kaufi]

excuse my stupid question, please. But i read on the tracktion site (http://www.mackie.com/products/tracktion/index.html)

"Simple drag-and-drop audio editing"

thanks for answer.

sorry for my english

[IIRs]

T2 (and T1) offers exremely flexible non-destructive editing, which is usually the best way to do things (as you always get to change your mind later if you want!). There are also a few basic destructive operations on offer, but if you need more detailed control you can link them to an external audio editor and open files for editing via Tracktion's right-click menu.

[cbit]

i think the editing operations offered by tracktion are too meagre to be called a 'audio editor' in the usual sense of the term.. so i'd say no (unless its been improved in t2, but i dont thnk its been mentioned in the 'new features lists' (?))

in terms of non destructive timeline editing, the options are: change playback speed, cut/trim audio, add fade-in/out curves, and tracktion's special timestretch (did i miss anything?).

[IIRs]

i think the editing operations offered by tracktion are too meagre to be called a 'audio editor' in the usual sense of the term..

I disagree. I used Tracktion to record a whole 40 minute classical CD, with all editing done non-destructively in Tracktion. That even includes re-tuning a couple of short passing notes on the cello by 20 cents or so! So long as you stress that it is non-destructive editing on offer there is no reason not to refer to Tracktion as a powerful and flexible audio editor.

[Todd24]

i think the editing operations offered by tracktion are too meagre to be called a 'audio editor' in the usual sense of the term..

I disagree. I used Tracktion to record a whole 40 minute classical CD, with all editing done non-destructively in Tracktion. That even includes re-tuning a couple of short passing notes on the cello by 20 cents or so! So long as you stress that it is non-destructive editing on offer there is no reason not to refer to Tracktion as a powerful and flexible audio editor.

I agree with Platniumears and would add that if you want it to be destructive, you can just render. Then its as flexable and useable as any editor (except for the crappy pitch shift that is).

[Lunch Money]

I also agree. People often get confused by the fact that there's not a drop-down menu full of processes. But you can still do the same thing, just by dropping in a plug-in to an object.

So, instead of opening Audition, applying a de-ess curve, boosting some mids, and running a compression preset, you just drop in a de-ess plug-in, an EQ plug-in, and an compressor plug-in.



Now, I'm the kind of guy who LIKES destructive editing. I like to see what happens on my waveform. Also, I use offline noise-reduction, which is trickier (or impossible?) to do properly with a plug-in.

So I like external audio editors. But that doesn't mean that most of the functions can't be done within Tracktion.

Greg

[spacefox]

What would make Tracktion complete in that regard is a "render clips" option. i.e. the option to render just selected clips with the filters on them, ignoring any filters on the track or master out - there's destructive editing for you (and the desired "merge audio clips" as well).

[cbit]

All though its certainly possible to do alot with what's available in t..if you compare it to softs that are marketed as 'audio editors', t is lacking some important stuff, imo, particularly: pitch envelopes, decent timestretch.

(as usual, i think opinions are divided on this based on ppls different production styles.. these missing features are important to me, but i guess something like destructive pitch envelopes arent important to most T users (?))

[Breakpete]

t is lacking some important stuff, imo, particularly: pitch envelopes, decent timestretch.

...and non-destructive reverse.

[Lunch Money]

If you can find an inexpensive editor with decent pitch and time shifting, let me know... I've been looking... not a one to be found.

[pHz]

If you can find an inexpensive editor with decent pitch and time shifting, let me know... I've been looking... not a one to be found.

what counts as inexpensive greg ???

slainte rob

[Lunch Money]

$40-$50 would be nice.

Closest I've come is Audition with an educational discount... that was $200 CDN I believe.

I'm probably going to get Acoustica, for the noise reduction. But last I checked, it didn't have decent pitch and time stretch. <shrug>

Greg

[nuisance sonore]

Lunch Money, if you do get acoustica, please let us know what you think of the noise reduction and how it compare to Audition. If there's one thing I regret about selling my rx10 card is the lost of Audition with it's awesome noise reduction facilities.

[IIRs]

Acoustica's noise reduction makes it possible for me to record a condenser mic in the same room as my PC. It can even deal with the fan noise from my guitar power amp.. worth the asking price on its own IMO.

[nuisance sonore]

I just tried the demo and I'm pretty impressed with the noise reduction. I would love to see a comparaison between this and the Sony's and Audition one. Maybe I should post a test file and see what peoples can come up with using different app?

Lunch Money, what don't you like about the pitch and time stretch? Seems ok here, altought personnaly I would use the Vegas one over this.