Some Chinese Flutes , are you like onlinedownload ?

[Lunatique]

Sakamoto Ryuichi is ok another you know producer Composer. Yoko Kanno is God Ha!
I just like to do more melodic styles, also there is a lot more harmony going on in Jpop then any style of popular music period, and lot of the producers can compose music other then just putting together a song. But yea it's all in the connections. Singers are only as good as there producer^_* idol singers etc. One way I know to get in is get the attention of a developer by doing something big in the US...
I barely post in KVR because frankly I can't stand the music people talk about(music?) grab some guitars instruments drums, mix master in studio and cd...and no harmony week melody, pathetic song structure, no cressendos, key changes etc...
ja

Agree 100% except for the part about Sakamoto and Yanno. I love both, but I think Sakamoto is the more original one. Yanno's ripped off Sakamoto on more than a few occasions--from her score for Cowboy Bebop to Macross Plus and others. Sakamoto is in a league all his own.

Isn't it amazing how Jpop has such lush melodies, arrangements, far wider range of styles, and much superior musicality in general compared to music from other countries (although the Koreans are catching up)? The average producer/songwriter/arranger in Japan is far better of a musician, knowing a ridiculous wide range of styles to draw from to form a complex and sophisticated sonic palette. I've been a huge fan since I was 13, and that love for Jpop has never wavered, even during the crappy T.K. years (I found sanctuary in bands like B'z, Buck-Tick, and various anime scores).

Think about it--you take the songwriting/composition/arrangement from the biggest pop stars in the U.S., and compare the quality of the music to the ones in Japan, there is just no comparison. The U.S. pop charts are filled with that crappy R&B stuff where everything sounds the same and the melodies/harmonies/arrangements are just crap. Even something as shallow as Morning Musume has awesome music.

[StrangeCat]

Isn't it amazing how Jpop has such lush melodies, arrangements, far wider range of styles, and much superior musicality in general compared to music from other countries (although the Koreans are catching up)?

yea it is, I mean I write Jpop^_*
Koreans some have Japanese Producers. If you mean BoA. China has been greatly influenced by Jpop dont' tell them I said that though LOL!

Yoko Kanno ripping off Sakamoto huh...hmm
well his score is cool for Apple Seed music(the bgm) not to keen on the electronic music in the movie though, so basic. I am not to sure about Yoko Kanno ripping off Sakamoto then again your talking to someone that doesn't know to much about him^_* I think that all artist are influenced in some way or another, it is how music grows.

most music, ok all of it, that i hear from everywhere except japan to me is unmusical(popular) it lacks everything...from your basic intro to melody, to changing keys in the chorus, to have variety in the bridge between either a repeat to the chorus and melody, to hell just having a sus 4/7 seven chord to seven chord harmony...it's a joke musically.
I like the idea that I can do Celtic style Jpop and know that it's popular in Japan that style of melody and instrumentation. or that i can do some far out texturing with beautiful melody on top then go into the chorus and add strings etc with the electronic texturing...strings playing nineths and thirteenths, hell yea Japan's popular music is way more musical^__^ and the Japanese don't even know it LOL! They soak all the music of the world.

yea R&B and Hip Hop no need to know music you just need to know Producing in the states and a way you go.(being a producer is hard as sheet) I know a guy that is going to be putting out a cd with Alanta Records, rap, hip hop stuff...just sing on top of the beats the producer goes and well yea. and another friend i have is a big time producer, has done hip hop R&B, rock stuff etc. Been over there and everytime I am like weak as chords.

[Lunatique]

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Yoko Kanno ripping off Sakamoto huh...hmm
well his score is cool for Apple Seed music(the bgm) not to keen on the electronic music in the movie though, so basic. I am not to sure about Yoko Kanno ripping off Sakamoto then again your talking to someone that doesn't know to much about him^_* I think that all artist are influenced in some way or another, it is how music grows.

Oh man, you totally need to dig up on Sakamoto, because without him, there would be no Yanno (BTW, Yanno is a woman). Yanno's definitely ripped off Sakamoto in more ways than one (if you are familiar with Sakamoto's discography, you'd have known that). I'm not criticizing Yanno at all, as I do like her stuff--I'm just saying she's more than borrowed from Sakamoto on many occassions. You know how she does that vocal chanting like style on top of ambient/atmospheric stuff? That's all Sakamoto. Remember when she used African vocals on top of other stuff in Cowboy Bebop? Once again, that's Sakamoto. The mixture of jazz and classical and pop? Sakamoto was doing that since the 70's. In fact, Sakamoto is widely recognized as one of the leading pioneers of world music.

Sakammoto is an two-time Academy Award winning compposer (for Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence, which he starred in with David Bowie, and also The Last Emperor, which he also starred in as well). He's also composed film scores for directors like Brian De Palma, Oliver Stone..etc. He's collaborated with great artists like David Sylvian, Thomas Dolby, and tons of others. He's widely revered by musicians of all music styles--from DJs to classical musicians to jazz musicians to hardcore electronic guys. The reason he's revered by all kinds of musicians is because he's very accomplished in a wide-range of musical styles, and has composed in jazz, classical, operas, ethnic, ambient, industrial, bossa nova, avant-garde/experimental, film scores, techno, pop..etc.

Anyway, look into him, but it won't be easy because he's extremely prolific and it's easy to get lost in the vast collection of his discography. I can send you some of my favorite Sakamoto tracks so you can hear for yourself. The man is a musician's musician in every sense of the word.

[StrangeCat]

thanks but naa I think that all composers are influenced by another composer or idea or something. A lot of times it's the director wanting this music for this part so you deliver (chior chant ontop of ambiance) I know who Sakamoto is...I just never real got into him. Last think I want to do is listen to more music LOL! I have 20 pieces I have to do production on it's crazy and I am trying to find work for writing music film animation 'er something. Hey African music for jazz well duh LOL!
African music is Jazz that's where Jazz came from^_* soo Yoko Kanno would use that if she is doing jazz.
I think that a composer should be able to compose music in any style for any ensemble and musician all music is related, though ethnic music is the most popular. Great Talking with ya! time for me to go
Ja!!!
my email is posted if you want to talk further.

[Gregjazz]

African music is Jazz that's where Jazz came from^_* soo Yoko Kanno would use that if she is doing jazz.

Err. African music is one of the origins of Jazz. But let's not start that discussion here.

[Kongaudio]

i don't know what's format everyone in needs ,maybe vsti is better , so i'll do it and addon new samples for vsti plugin version , if you buy the gigastudio 2.x format already and have any problem or question ?plz let me know

Best Regards

[Ben H]

noooo,

Please keep it in giga or some other raw waveform format so that i can still have access to the samples to process for myself.

Ben H

[sosayweall]

Hi ben_horwoo, we decide to keep the giga format at this stage. So anyone who wishes to mangle the samples still has the door open to them.

Since we have our official forum here as well, you all are welcome to drop by and continue the discussion here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=64

[hollowsun]

I am just curious why a thread announcing some truly wonderful *CHINESE* woodwind samples has travelled now to Japan with discussion of Jpop and Japanese artists and language ("Moshi moshi", BTW, is a greeting only used in Japan and only used when answering the telephone!)!

Steve