Is the stuck first note issue resolved or not?

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semiquaver wrote:Why not have T move MIDI notes from tick 1 to tick 2 automatically? couldn't take long to code!
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platinumears wrote:Do you actually know how long 1 tick is? 1/960th of a beat! :shock:
Not sure about MIDI clips but I think the Tracktion time base resolution isn't ppq based, it's sample accurate to the selected rate. Hence you can change the displayed time base to almost anything including milliseconds, and tempo-related terms like "tick" and "beat" becomes irrelevant.

Also worth mentioning that a MIDI NOTE ON event takes 30 bits/31250 bits/s = .960ms or nearly 1 whole ms, just to transmit it down the wire (for external gear). Of course, when triggering a VST, this delay isn't incurred.

My points are:
1) Tracktion internal time base is extremely precise
2) MIDI message timing is relatively imprecise
3) External MIDI gear has relatively high latency
4) A large number of MIDI messages sent to an external synth could very well "choke" to the point of being unacceptable for video. This has very little to do with Tracktion however.

HTH,
Ti

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tkmattson wrote:
Ezy Ryder wrote:
tkmattson wrote:
Good to know that it has been reported. I have to ask though, although rhetorically, why is T2 coming out then?
Probably because, as platinumears pointed out, it's not a show stopper and as ModuLR said, probably difficult to fix. If you start your music on bar 2 or 3 like I do, you'll never notice it. It's just bad for the unsuspecting one who might loose an incredible amount of time trying to figure the problem out, so I'm of the opinion that it should be in the "known issues" on the Tracktion info page somewhere or a FAQ or something.
That's fine if you're just making a tune, but if you're soundtrack scoring, and start on bar one or two, or even one tick later, and you can't somehow bump the video the same amount, the Quicktime feature then becomes useless. It (the render issue) was in the known issues thread that was sticky'd, & actually for the most part, it WAS the thread, the single biggest problem people seemed to have with Tracktion across the board. Unfortunately, the thread is no longer sticky'd....

I just finished scoring 2 videos, and a third on the way; all done in T1 and a notepad to note bar number of important event, without even any form of video support and honestly, I don't see starting on bar 2 as a problem at all. You will have to position your soundtrack in your NLE anyway and probably do last minutes tweaking in there also; and with my limited playing with QT and T2 it seems to have start offset anyway. And to conclude, if starting on bar 2 has proven to be unacceptable, one measly tick is infinitely more precise than an orchestral conductor following a movie playing in the background.
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Ezy Ryder wrote:
tkmattson wrote:
Ezy Ryder wrote:
tkmattson wrote:
Good to know that it has been reported. I have to ask though, although rhetorically, why is T2 coming out then?
Probably because, as platinumears pointed out, it's not a show stopper and as ModuLR said, probably difficult to fix. If you start your music on bar 2 or 3 like I do, you'll never notice it. It's just bad for the unsuspecting one who might loose an incredible amount of time trying to figure the problem out, so I'm of the opinion that it should be in the "known issues" on the Tracktion info page somewhere or a FAQ or something.
That's fine if you're just making a tune, but if you're soundtrack scoring, and start on bar one or two, or even one tick later, and you can't somehow bump the video the same amount, the Quicktime feature then becomes useless. It (the render issue) was in the known issues thread that was sticky'd, & actually for the most part, it WAS the thread, the single biggest problem people seemed to have with Tracktion across the board. Unfortunately, the thread is no longer sticky'd....

I just finished scoring 2 videos, and a third on the way; all done in T1 and a notepad to note bar number of important event, without even any form of video support and honestly, I don't see starting on bar 2 as a problem at all. You will have to position your soundtrack in your NLE anyway and probably do last minutes tweaking in there also; and with my limited playing with QT and T2 it seems to have start offset anyway. And to conclude, if starting on bar 2 has proven to be unacceptable, one measly tick is infinitely more precise than an orchestral conductor following a movie playing in the background.
I'm not saying it can't be done, of course you can. Hell, you can score something with a click book & a fourteen string Philiipino madolin and still get it somewhat precise. My point is, it shouldn't be that difficult, not when it's obviously something that should be fixed....
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this thread is at risk of going round and round in circles...
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!

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valley wrote:this thread is at risk of going round and round in circles...
Oooo, is there a Billy Preston remix on the way? :D

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valley wrote:this thread is at risk of going round and round in circles...
That's what we do best here on the Groundhog's...er.. I mean Tracktion forum. :hihi:

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