Extremely Interested in the Receptor but still wondering

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I am a guitarist. I have a decent home studio and record a lot. I have been going back in forth for over a year now about what I want in my rig.

I currently have an ADA MP-1, G-Major, Mesa Boogie 2:50, but I sold the MP-1 cause I didn't like it. As far as guitar goes I am a tube guy, but I am a programmer for a living and record with my PC and like the conveince of digital. I am wondering what the effects are like for guitars on this thing and could it really survive being in my guitar rack.

When I do solo gigs I bring a lot of my home studio equipment including my pc and, I use it to play my tracks I have recorded and I play lead parts over them.

I am also a HUGe fan of VST instruments and effects. So what I am asking, based off of what I said, what can the Receptor do for me?

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For one you can tempo sync all you effects to a single source. That's a major pain live if you have to hook up a bunch of hardware fast and hope it all works. As for the type of effects check out Plugorama.com to see what's on Receptor.

Here's something for Acoustic Guitar I do with it.
Ch1 and Ch2 I give a stereo feed from my Taylor into Receptors line inputs.

For Ch3 I use one line input as a source then set the Ch3 fader to zero, also set it as a pre fader which can be controlled by a foot control via a MIDI CC#. For Ch3 I also assign a long delay and huge reverb so there's a really long tail. Now I can use the Pre fader with my foot and use an EBOW, fade in chords etc.

Finally I send one signal direct from my Taylor to an A/B box. One signal goes to Receptors line input and the other to a loop stomp box with a volume pedal. That signal goes to the Guitar Input and is assigned to CH4 and gets a timed delay. Now I can also record and play back live parts on the fly too.

An overall delay and reverb are added to Effects BUS 1 and 2 for a final mix.

What's really cool about Receptor is that you can assign the same source signal over multiple channels and process them like crazy.

I've also created patches that do an auto fade on one channel, timed delays on another with a chopper on it.

I could go on and on with this, Receptor is insane for doing all kinds of stuff like this. Also you turn it on and all your settings are there ready to go.
junebughunter wrote:I am a guitarist. I have a decent home studio and record a lot. I have been going back in forth for over a year now about what I want in my rig.

I currently have an ADA MP-1, G-Major, Mesa Boogie 2:50, but I sold the MP-1 cause I didn't like it. As far as guitar goes I am a tube guy, but I am a programmer for a living and record with my PC and like the conveince of digital. I am wondering what the effects are like for guitars on this thing and could it really survive being in my guitar rack.

When I do solo gigs I bring a lot of my home studio equipment including my pc and, I use it to play my tracks I have recorded and I play lead parts over them.

I am also a HUGe fan of VST instruments and effects. So what I am asking, based off of what I said, what can the Receptor do for me?
Rick
Muse Research

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Thanks for your response. It is sounding cooler and cooler. I am assuming I am still gonna need a good pre-amp for it though...to get my distortions etc? If it had some amp modeling tones comparable to the POD XT or something I would buy it in a second.

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Guitar Rig by Native Instruments is what you want. Seeing as how they are working with receptor on crossgrading their products I would assume it will be compatible soon. I have been looking in to this as well as there are lots of amazing combinations you could come up with..

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Hi guys,

This post interests me, particularly Rick talking about using a loop pedal. Please bear with me as I explain my current setup...

I'm using an Akai Headrush (loop pedal) to play live. I run signal out of an auxillary on my mixing desk, so that I can sample anything which goes through it. I usually sample a loop from cd, then play bass line, extra keys parts, etc.

I was hoping, after first hearing about the Receptor, that I could figure out a way of playing loops, and overdubbing onto them, all using Receptor. If Rick, who works there, can't do it, I'm assuming it can't be done. Can anyone think of a way?

Cheers,

boog.

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Let me crack my knuckles first:)

His some possiblities:

SETUP A:
1. Take the left Receptor line output and feed that to the RETURN of the loop pedal. Take the SEND from the loop pedal and feed that to the Receptor left line in (You could insert a volume pedal here.) Instantiate a plugin on CH1 and intantiate a Line Input on CH2. Also on channel 2 instantiate FX "DFX Monomaker" and set it so the mono signal is now on both the left and right outputs.
2. Take the S/PDIF and send that stereo mix to an D/A convert and then to the PA.

SETUP B:
I have a Taylor Acoustice Guitar with stereo outs, left output to a A/B box, signal (A) goes to the loop pedal and volume pedal into the Receptor Instrument Input. Signal (B) goes to the Receptor left input, the right output of the Taylor goes to right Receptor input. In the Receptor it looks like this; BUS 1 = huge 10,000 ms delay and a long reverb, BUS 2 300 ms delay and a good hall reverb not washed out. CH1 / CH2 = Taylor left and right signals, panned. CH3=loop center pan (here I use an inserted delay timed to tempo, CH4 is the left line input with BUS set to Pre Fader channel volume at zero, I use CC to move the Pre Bus 1 fader to create pads.

If you this doesn't help write to me and list the gear you want to use and how you are using it.
boogooloo1 wrote:Hi guys,

This post interests me, particularly Rick talking about using a loop pedal. Please bear with me as I explain my current setup...

I'm using an Akai Headrush (loop pedal) to play live. I run signal out of an auxillary on my mixing desk, so that I can sample anything which goes through it. I usually sample a loop from cd, then play bass line, extra keys parts, etc.

I was hoping, after first hearing about the Receptor, that I could figure out a way of playing loops, and overdubbing onto them, all using Receptor. If Rick, who works there, can't do it, I'm assuming it can't be done. Can anyone think of a way?

Cheers,

boog.
Rick
Muse Research

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Hi Rick,

Hmmm... I noticed Loopy Llama on another post, and I've installed it - it's ALMOST exactly what I wanted (only thing is, you can't press stop and start??). I've put the LL on FX bus 1, and then I can send any of the channels to it, record a loop (of Stylus for example) and overdub keys/bass parts into it. I was hoping NOT to have to send to outboard gear, which is why I'm pretty happy with the Llama, although hopefully they'll add the stop/start feature.

By the way, can you give the marketing/distribution department a message from me? Realistically, 256 MEG of Ram, or even under 1 GIG, makes the Receptor unusable - I played it live for the first time last night, and with 768 MEG of Ram in it, just playing a piano patch with NO FX (using sustain pedal a lot), there was a HUGE pop at one point. Highly embarrassing! The reason I mention it is that I specifically asked whether the amount of RAM it shipped with was anywere near enough, and the distributor (not the sales guy) told me it would be fine. I'm going to have to buy more RAM now, and the wife is not impressed!

By the way, can you answer one more thing for me? I uninstalled the free demo of B4 to try to install the real thing (without the crossgrade), which obviously didn't work, but I could really use the B4 tonight. Is there somewhere you can download the free demo again to get me through the crossgrade process?

Cheers,

boog.

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boogooloo1 wrote:By the way, can you answer one more thing for me? I uninstalled the free demo of B4 to try to install the real thing (without the crossgrade), which obviously didn't work, but I could really use the B4 tonight. Is there somewhere you can download the free demo again to get me through the crossgrade process?
You can download the original installers from Plugorama (if you are logged in). You can get B4 from http://www.plugorama.com/customer/produ ... ductid=251

(click the format icon)

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Hey I jsut checked out LoopyLlama http://rekliner.com/?PageID=14 "I LIKE IT!" very cool, I wrote to the company to request start / stop control. I was able to get control over the Record and Reset button via a remote controller NRPN by STEP NOT toggle. I was using a 1.2 Receptor with 2GB of RAM.

256 RAM: Yes it's true that 256 is not enough to run Receptor, I recommend 2GB and call it a day. The basic throught was to try and keep the entry level price point down.

B4: Download B4 from Plugorama and install it, let me know if you have any problems.
boogooloo1 wrote:Hi Rick,

Hmmm... I noticed Loopy Llama on another post, and I've installed it - it's ALMOST exactly what I wanted (only thing is, you can't press stop and start??). I've put the LL on FX bus 1, and then I can send any of the channels to it, record a loop (of Stylus for example) and overdub keys/bass parts into it. I was hoping NOT to have to send to outboard gear, which is why I'm pretty happy with the Llama, although hopefully they'll add the stop/start feature.

By the way, can you give the marketing/distribution department a message from me? Realistically, 256 MEG of Ram, or even under 1 GIG, makes the Receptor unusable - I played it live for the first time last night, and with 768 MEG of Ram in it, just playing a piano patch with NO FX (using sustain pedal a lot), there was a HUGE pop at one point. Highly embarrassing! The reason I mention it is that I specifically asked whether the amount of RAM it shipped with was anywere near enough, and the distributor (not the sales guy) told me it would be fine. I'm going to have to buy more RAM now, and the wife is not impressed!

By the way, can you answer one more thing for me? I uninstalled the free demo of B4 to try to install the real thing (without the crossgrade), which obviously didn't work, but I could really use the B4 tonight. Is there somewhere you can download the free demo again to get me through the crossgrade process?

Cheers,

boog.
Rick
Muse Research

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Hi Rick,

I downloaded it, but it isn't giving me the 30 day trial period, just telling me I need the ilok :( I feel pretty stupid, as it's my own fault for uninstalling it, but is there some way of putting it back on for a month??

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boogooloo1 wrote:Hi Rick,

I downloaded it, but it isn't giving me the 30 day trial period, just telling me I need the ilok :( I feel pretty stupid, as it's my own fault for uninstalling it, but is there some way of putting it back on for a month??
You probably started the demo more than 30 days ago, before you uninstalled it. There is no way to reset the demo period. Since you already own it, the easiest way is to crossgrade.
Dan Timis
Software Developer
Muse Research, Inc.

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Hi Dan,

I bought the Receptor 3 days ago, so I clearly haven't used it for a month! If you read back, I uninstalled it because I have the real b4, without realising I'd need to Receptorise it, but now I'm hoping to get the demo going again while waiting for the crossgrade. Any chance?

boog.

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I uninstalled B4 today to verfiy my un-used demo permissions would return, and in my test it did. I'm sorry but there is not way to extend a demo period which has expired.
boogooloo1 wrote:Hi Dan,

I bought the Receptor 3 days ago, so I clearly haven't used it for a month! If you read back, I uninstalled it because I have the real b4, without realising I'd need to Receptorise it, but now I'm hoping to get the demo going again while waiting for the crossgrade. Any chance?

boog.
Rick
Muse Research

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Hi Rick,

The only thing is, it HADN'T expired - I hadn't even started the demo! So when you uninstalled the real version, the demo turned up again?

boog.

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If you never start the demo, then you uninstall, then you install it again, it should not expire the demo. But, you also tried to install and run another version, and I don't think we tested what would happen in this case.

I don't know if this would work, but you could try the following: First, make sure you have the latest version of the software - 1.2.20050418 Then, restart (tripple press the power button) while holding down the MULTI button on the front panel. Hold the button at least 4-5 seconds, then you can let go. Receptor will take several minutes to boot. Be very patient.

What this does is it rebuilds the banks and plug-ins caches. In case the B4 demo is not really expired, but the cache is out of sync, this should fix the problem. If the demo is really expired, there is nothing we can do to restore it. But, we can try to make sure you get the crossgrade as fast as possible.
Dan Timis
Software Developer
Muse Research, Inc.

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