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pHz · Post by **pHz** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:59 pm

wouldnt want it any other way ...

slainte

rob

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:00 pm

pHz wrote:wouldnt want it any other way ...
slainte rob

its not like my job involves shaping more impressionable minds or anything ...

slainte

rob

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:03 pm

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:21 pm

braj wrote:OK, don't call it a mixer then But I'd still like it. I like valley's comment, and it would be like folder tracks. I guess 'mixer' is way too loaded a word around here.

as a more general concept, I would like to make more use of the info window space that occupies a sizeable portion of the screen.

forget mixer, lets make it a virtual controller

the window could have a new mode where it displays a bunch of sliders which can have any parameter assigned to them. Thus you could assign parameters from any filter, including volume.

That way if a person wanted to, they could make a sort of mixer, but they could use this in various other ways. Right now if I want to use two filters on a track, I have to constantly switch back and forth between them to edit parameters. With this virtual controller I can assign them and control them together.

This would also be more flexible than the current lock option.

willowhaus · Post by **willowhaus** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:22 pm

Lunch Money wrote:willow - that's exactly what Braj is suggesting; however, my question remains - how could that space be used effectively? It wouldn't be long before you were horizontally scrolling, too.

This is what I pictured (20 tracks easy!):

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:29 pm

thats REAL ugly though ...

slainte

rob

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:34 pm

pHz wrote:thats REAL ugly though ...

slainte rob

Yeah, but it illustrates the potential.

I like platinumears' idea of a modular controller section (pdxindy also mentioned basically the same thing) and that would be great. Something modular, whether it is mirroring the active filters or something else. I dunno, but it would be cool.

willowhaus · Post by **willowhaus** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:41 pm

You're just mad because Lead Wino isn't first...

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:42 pm

I think I'm 'Dead Cat'.

Glassback · Post by **Glassback** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:43 pm

pHz wrote:

slainte rob

"posted at 10:47pm" - I posted an almost identical picture in another thread at 10:20pm.
Co-incidence?
Or just that teachers have no imagination?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:04 pm

willow--

It illustrates my point perfectly, though-- that's only 20 tracks and it's getting a bit squishy in there. Certainly not too squishy for ME, but just imagine 32 tracks, or as Braj alluded to, 60 tracks!

It's the idea of 'snapshots' that makes it actually worthwhile, moreso than the use of space, though. And since I extended that train of thought to include 'snapshots' of the order of tracks in the arrange view, I'm more enticed by THAT concept than by a wee little mixer window-thing.

As for all the VCA and other automation stuff mentioned, that's pretty much over my head. <laff>

Greg

willowhaus · Post by **willowhaus** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:07 pm

Well sure, you're going to have limitations somewhere - but 20 tracks for a submix is pretty good. Remember, this is only supposed to be a subset, not the entire project.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:09 pm

Right, but one of the points I've always made is that you can make subsets in Tracktion already, and while 20 tracks is starting to feel a bit squishy (squishier than your model, I admit) if you REALLY needed 20 tracks of submix visible at once, you could do it already.

Greg

dealwithit · Post by **dealwithit** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:09 pm

pdxindy wrote:
braj wrote:OK, don't call it a mixer then But I'd still like it. I like valley's comment, and it would be like folder tracks. I guess 'mixer' is way too loaded a word around here.
as a more general concept, I would like to make more use of the info window space that occupies a sizeable portion of the screen.

forget mixer, lets make it a virtual controller

the window could have a new mode where it displays a bunch of sliders which can have any parameter assigned to them. Thus you could assign parameters from any filter, including volume.

That way if a person wanted to, they could make a sort of mixer, but they could use this in various other ways. Right now if I want to use two filters on a track, I have to constantly switch back and forth between them to edit parameters. With this virtual controller I can assign them and control them together.

This would also be more flexible than the current lock option.

I have pretty much accustomed myself to mixing in T without a "mixer", per se, but this sounds really interesting. I think this could be a feature I want to see, regardless of opinions on a mixer. I'm not sure how it would work exactly, but I'm definitely intrigued.

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:10 pm

willowhaus wrote:Well sure, you're going to have limitations somewhere - but 20 tracks for a submix is pretty good. Remember, this is only supposed to be a subset, not the entire project.

Not to mention yours was a mock-up. I'd imagine the UI could be sorted out to use all the available space more efficiently.

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