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Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:46 am

AndrewSimon wrote:OK I don't want to be the spoiler here but I think it's important to say what I think so Midiworks gets the right feedback from all people.

That is very welcome !

AndrewSimon wrote: In my opinion the clean sounds are bad.
They are thin and sound as if they come from the nose.

From the nose...?
One take was ment to sound like that, but the others not.
Thin ? What is your definition of thin ?
Not enough bass, different speaker simulation ?
Please explane !

AndrewSimon wrote: The dirty sounds are much better but I have not heard any demos of the sound I am looking for.
That is a fat overdriven tube sound with some distortion but not too much.

Then please send me an mp3 with the sound you are looking for, "AND" the dry version of the same take !
I will see how close I can get to that sound then.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:18 am

OK good. Just wanted to be sure it is useful.

mondo tormento · Post by **mondo tormento** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:06 pm

I'm not at all impressed with the 'clean' examples, they sound like they're just going thru an eq. But I know it's really hard to use other peoples examples, the best thing is to play it yourself and dial in a tone that suits your playing style and guitar. So far I haven't heard an example of someone using a Gibson Les Paul or an SG. I always use a preamplifier when I'm using amp plugins, if I don't it sounds thin and brittle even though I'm using humbuckers. Imagine a single coil Strat directly into the soundcard...

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:33 pm

New track heavy distortion !

Eat this ! (if you can...)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/rockmansoundmusic.htm

Sorry, no clean version this time thanks to Microsoft crashing Explorer...
This is my answer to the "thin" sound !
(Yes, here I tweaked quite a bit.)

Couldnt even clean the track up, sorry...

Enjoy !

rawcan · Post by **rawcan** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:41 pm

Hi Midiworks,

this new heavy track is kinda OK, except the low resonance prob. On the one hand it's not really fat but on the other hand it's too boomy. Seems to be related to the player/guitar.

All the best, FRitz

veseli koljac · Post by **veseli koljac** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:55 pm

too much broom,and i think distortion is little weak,but not bad at all.

you may check my example (simulanalog+mda+dist)
http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2P1I ... P0AV5ZTHMX

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:10 pm

Not sure if anyone's asked or if this has been answered anywhere but does this ampsim include oversampling? It seems to make a huge difference in a lot of distortion plug-ins.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:17 pm

This still isn't over-the-top chunkiness, but I DO detect a certain... er... I don't even know how to describe it... kerrrang! that most guitar amp sims don't have, which makes my ears perk up.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:07 am

The low resonance prob(at the end) is due to the fact that I couldnt clean the track up, switched at the end to the wrong cab, sorry....

too much broom,and i think distortion is little weak,but not bad at all.

Too much broom, depends on your speakers I'd guess...
Distortion is a little weak ?
Sure I can turn up more, but does that makes sense ?
I personally think its more than enough...

Oversampling?
This is a amp sim, not a synth.
The signal is going through stages of boosters and EQs.
Alaising does not happend here, like with osc's for exemple.
I dont think it will make any difference here if an
EQ/Filter is oversampled or not,
but I will give it a try anyway.

I am NOT 100% happy with "Eat this ! (if you can...)"
It is missing the upper "clang" for me,
but I'll get there !

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:15 am

Midiworks wrote:New track heavy distortion !

Eat this ! (if you can...)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/rockmansoundmusic.htm

I'm sorry man, I know you've worked long & hard, but that sounds like crap.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:26 am

Hi Sickle,
I really wonder why you say that... Can you please be more specific ?

The amp settings are always the same, only the cabs change the sounds.

fxe · Post by **fxe** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:04 am

Midiworks wrote: Oversampling?
This is a amp sim, not a synth.
The signal is going through stages of boosters and EQs.
Alaising does not happend here, like with osc's for exemple.
I dont think it will make any difference here if an
EQ/Filter is oversampled or not,
but I will give it a try anyway.

100% wrong

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:29 am

Eat this ! (if you can...)

Updated !

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/rockmansoundmusic.htm

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:25 am

The new "eat this" demo is sounding quite better than the older one, which I found to be too boomy too. Still, I think to make a judgement, one needs to actually play with this - I allways "autoadjust" my playing following the amp response.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:35 am

Actually, both are the same files...
Only added the dry and cut away the bad cab.

Guitar players, The soundclick MP3 demo page got updated !