Tracktion needs confidence recording
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
The big meters are there true, but you can't be expected to watch them all the time. Having a visual record of the input is excellent feedback.chico.co.uk wrote:Yes. That would be why the big input meters were added. Incidentally, if you're reacting to something that's already happened, well, you've missed it.
Seeing a wav file that's clipped may be too late but if this is a live show then at least you can save the remaining songs and maybe even rescue what was clipped.
I use limiters and compression for live work on the pre-amps to help stop such occurances, so actually SEEING the wav's over time is not necessarily that critiacal, but having that feedback certainly can 'tame' those lively parts of a song and so help either the signal to noise ratio or having a less 'compressed' sound.
I agree it should be able to be turned off if is saves CPU.
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
I never record live gigs, so maybe this isn't an issue for me for that reason. But unless i'm mistaken a track that clips will light the big input meters red "clip" indicator up, so you can already tell that it's happened.
But if other people want this as a feature, that's fair play. As long as it can be turned off, sure, why not.
But if other people want this as a feature, that's fair play. As long as it can be turned off, sure, why not.
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
Seen as how T2 is bundled in Mackie Onyx mixers I think that making T2 handle recording multiple audio signals in a live situation as easy as possible more of a priority.
N.B. The input meters never clip.
N.B. The input meters never clip.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 22 Apr, 2004
Sonar has this feature. And when I demoed Tracktion, believe it or not, it was probably the main reason I didn't switch. I liked to workflow of Tracktion a lot, but when you're used to having instant feedback that you're being recorded properly (and can stop if you're not, or continue with "confidence" if you are), it's tough not to have that.
Before Sonar added the feature, I certainly didn't need it. But, I've also had the experience where you go through a take and there's nothing there (it would sometimes happen on the first take after booting up -- and annoy the hell out of me). That just doesn't happen anymore.
Before Sonar added the feature, I certainly didn't need it. But, I've also had the experience where you go through a take and there's nothing there (it would sometimes happen on the first take after booting up -- and annoy the hell out of me). That just doesn't happen anymore.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
zootlaw, you are an odd duck! I can't imagine that being the only reason to not switch!
Braj-- OK, that's the one reason I could understand needing or wanting it. Fair play.
Tingle-- for in-the-past metering? Nope. Especially not in the case of MIDI data. Braj has clarified for me what ttoz probably meant anyhow and I just missed it. I can give Braj (and therefore ttoz) that point.
I guess it never occurred to me because when I'm pluggin in microphones or my guitar, I'm testing the levels and I can always tell if I've got it "wired up" right so I always have confidence. Still, I can see why it would give you extra confidence that something's being recorded.
Greg
Braj-- OK, that's the one reason I could understand needing or wanting it. Fair play.
Tingle-- for in-the-past metering? Nope. Especially not in the case of MIDI data. Braj has clarified for me what ttoz probably meant anyhow and I just missed it. I can give Braj (and therefore ttoz) that point.
I guess it never occurred to me because when I'm pluggin in microphones or my guitar, I'm testing the levels and I can always tell if I've got it "wired up" right so I always have confidence. Still, I can see why it would give you extra confidence that something's being recorded.
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
Braj hasn't made any postsLunch Money wrote:Braj-- OK, that's the one reason I could understand needing or wanting it. Fair play.
Obviously midi has no chance of clippingLunch Money wrote:Tingle-- for in-the-past metering? Nope. Especially not in the case of MIDI data. Braj has clarified for me what ttoz probably meant anyhow and I just missed it. I can give Braj (and therefore ttoz) that point.
This thread is mainly about recording live audio (say at a gig) so midi is not really part of the equation. 
N.B. Lunch - please re-read my previous post as for good reasons to see the wav files as they are recorded. If you don't do much live audio recording it's no surprise that you are not interested
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Bah, oops, it was haydxn. I shoulda known Braj wouldn't say anything reasonable. Still, it would have no or very very little use for metering, that's what meters are for. Or in other words, in the absence of meters, I understand how you COULD in theory use it as a substitute meter, but why would you when we already have meters?
Still, it would have no or very very little use for metering, that's what meters are for. Or in other words, in the absence of meters, I understand how you COULD in theory use it as a substitute meter, but why would you when we already have meters?-
- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
For this reasonTingle wrote:The big meters are there true, but you can't be expected to watch them all the time. Having a visual record of the input is excellent feedback.
Seeing a wav file that's clipped may be too late but if this is a live show then at least you can save the remaining songs and maybe even rescue what was clipped.
I use limiters and compression for live work on the pre-amps to help stop such occurances, so actually SEEING the wav's over time is not necessarily that critiacal, but having that feedback certainly can 'tame' those lively parts of a song and so help either the signal to noise ratio or having a less 'compressed' sound.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
If it works for you, it can't be wrong.
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
well, I haven't had them for 2 years so I guess I can get by!
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- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
You f**king bastard!Lunch Money wrote:I shoulda known Braj wouldn't say anything reasonable.
Shoulda known you'd get something so basic as someone's name WRONG! 
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
Hear. This sucks big time (it sucked with Cubase as well), but if there's anything that can be done about this major bug, it would be great.PT wrote:I've done midi recordings that were a few minutes long only to find that nothing got recorded. It would be nice to see some indication that things were in fact being recorded.
It's a misery to do an inspired recording and find out that it was never recorded. And you have lost the inspiration.