Why do people buy Receptor?
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
i've always wondered whether KvR would suffer, or even disappear, if Muse Research became bankrupt... i hope it'll never happen, tho.
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- KVRAF
- 4143 posts since 7 Sep, 2001 from Melbourne, Australia
Wopelka wrote:i've always wondered whether KvR would suffer, or even disappear, if Muse Research became bankrupt... i hope it'll never happen, tho.
Don't even mention it Wopelka!
I can imagine several "Save KvR" threads being started though. Afterall it's more addictive than the music itself.
Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.
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- KVRian
- 1399 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
----Is there anything else on the market that does what Receptor does for using vstis live ? Besides a laptop that is not rackmountable, or as stable.
Jeff
Jeff
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- KVRAF
- 2818 posts since 30 Aug, 2001 from where dinosaurs are still alive
never got it. just like cars with premounted stereos or those 1-kilo-us-tyle "bins" of ice cream.
anyway...keeps the site alive, so...I guess it's AMAZING.
anyway...keeps the site alive, so...I guess it's AMAZING.
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- KVRist
- 80 posts since 20 Sep, 2004
we got given 'training' on it when it came out (i worked in a music store for a while) - and i have to honest and say my initial reaction was 'why would anyone buy this?'
although it did come with loads of free 'synth edit' plugins installed, all the decent stuff like NI and whatnot only ran for a fortnight and then had to be authorised (at more expense)
it was just another long line of products that made me want to get out of music retail (see also everything Roland have released in the past 5 years)
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although it did come with loads of free 'synth edit' plugins installed, all the decent stuff like NI and whatnot only ran for a fortnight and then had to be authorised (at more expense)
it was just another long line of products that made me want to get out of music retail (see also everything Roland have released in the past 5 years)
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- KVRian
- 1262 posts since 15 Feb, 2003 from Up the Pennine way
One thing i can't understand is how they can say "use vst plug-ins without a computer" when that's what Receptor is, a Linux computer!
Because of the cost it does make me wonder how many people have actually bought one. Do a simple business plan and some math and you are talking of selling at least 2000+ before breaking even. And that's at the low end, it could be 5000+ or higher.
So I presume the main source of income would be from kvr which seems to make receptor just a sideline.
I have a great conspiracy theory, cue Michael Moore........
I wonder if the company accounts have to be published?
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
There's PlugZilla and Neko. Both are substantially higher-priced. See this post from two weeks ago.liars&ashes wrote:----Is there anything else on the market that does what Receptor does for using vstis live ? Besides a laptop that is not rackmountable, or as stable.
Doug
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- KVRAF
- 4314 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
http://www.museresearch.com/bakers_dozen.php
Basically Receptor is more robust, more silent, reboot in 5 seconds to its original configuration, have Windows Plugins without the need to have a Windows running computer, etc...
Looks interesting for me, it gives me the impression that receptor will last longer than a basic computer.
Basically Receptor is more robust, more silent, reboot in 5 seconds to its original configuration, have Windows Plugins without the need to have a Windows running computer, etc...
Looks interesting for me, it gives me the impression that receptor will last longer than a basic computer.
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
but might get quickly obsolete, performance-wise.
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- KVRAF
- 4314 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
Pretty much everything get obsolete one day, but if you like it you'll keep it just like I keep my old poly-800 synth & rx-21 drum machine.Wopelka wrote:but might get quickly obsolete, performance-wise.
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- KVRAF
- 8712 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
I can see the point of it. If I was doing live music, I'd almost definitely buy it. I can see a place for it in many smaller project studios - it only takes up rack space rather than a huge PC tower. More reliable, I'd imagine, because it doesn't have all the other crap that comes preloaded on a Windows or Mac system. No worries about drivers and the myriad other things that can go wrong.
And come to that - if I was thinking of a secondary PC, I'd still entertain the idea of a Receptor - again, less space to take up. And as for the price...there are many people to whom that price is not a great deal for a reliable and useful musical tool. Not all musicians balk at over $25 for a plugin you know. I used to spend anywhere between 500 and 1000 quid in days gone by for any synth or any rack FX unit - even compressors etc. I still find the fact I can buy a top quality commercial VSTi synth at 100 quid nothing less than amazing.
If you need a specific tool for a specific job, you will be prepared to spend money on it if you are serious about your music.
Having said that....I don't want one
And come to that - if I was thinking of a secondary PC, I'd still entertain the idea of a Receptor - again, less space to take up. And as for the price...there are many people to whom that price is not a great deal for a reliable and useful musical tool. Not all musicians balk at over $25 for a plugin you know. I used to spend anywhere between 500 and 1000 quid in days gone by for any synth or any rack FX unit - even compressors etc. I still find the fact I can buy a top quality commercial VSTi synth at 100 quid nothing less than amazing.
If you need a specific tool for a specific job, you will be prepared to spend money on it if you are serious about your music.
Having said that....I don't want one
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- KVRAF
- 2830 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas
I have a Mac. If I had the time, money, and inclination to explore Windows-only plugs, I'd seriously consider getting a Receptor instead of a Windows machine to sit side by side with my Mac. Less space, and no need to deal with another OS.
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- KVRian
- 1238 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Kentucky
I see it as a live, rack mount unit to replace things like rack mount VA's and ROMplers. I would probably be more trusting of it than a Windows PC on stage, and you don't have the crowd seeing a PC and wondering if everything you play is faked. What I don't like is the Pace type protection.
All I need to be happy is one more VSTi.
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- KVRist
- 458 posts since 30 Jun, 2003 from cinci, oh
The concept is good; but the implimentation is poor.
1) Too expensive
2) No included "premium VSTI"
3) Dongle
Why would someone spend $1400 for an empty box, then spend another $500+ on dongled soft synths ? For that money, one could buy a real keyboard instrument; something with intrinsic and resale value.
The hole in the receptor logic is the implicit assumption that software synthesizers are "as good as" hareware synthesisers. They are not. They could be, but the economics are not there to support it. Typically, a softsynth is nothing more than the product of an individual's hobby, with perhaps NI and one or two others being the exceptions.
Meanwhile, the big hardware names have the resources, financial and otherwise, to build real hardware, write real software, and include quality samples / presets. (This last point is not to be understated, because a synth without quality presets is nothing but a sound designers toy.) The hardware itself becomes the dongle.
In my opinion, for a receptor-like concept to be viable, it needs to be price competitive with what it wants to displace; either PC (with freeware) or keyboard (with premium software). For the price of a Receptor, I could have a Yamaha P60 midied to an Alesis QS6.2. I know which choice I would make.
1) Too expensive
2) No included "premium VSTI"
3) Dongle
Why would someone spend $1400 for an empty box, then spend another $500+ on dongled soft synths ? For that money, one could buy a real keyboard instrument; something with intrinsic and resale value.
The hole in the receptor logic is the implicit assumption that software synthesizers are "as good as" hareware synthesisers. They are not. They could be, but the economics are not there to support it. Typically, a softsynth is nothing more than the product of an individual's hobby, with perhaps NI and one or two others being the exceptions.
Meanwhile, the big hardware names have the resources, financial and otherwise, to build real hardware, write real software, and include quality samples / presets. (This last point is not to be understated, because a synth without quality presets is nothing but a sound designers toy.) The hardware itself becomes the dongle.
In my opinion, for a receptor-like concept to be viable, it needs to be price competitive with what it wants to displace; either PC (with freeware) or keyboard (with premium software). For the price of a Receptor, I could have a Yamaha P60 midied to an Alesis QS6.2. I know which choice I would make.