Thanks for CKV2, here's a sample...

[envoy]

Hi,

Thanks again for a lovely instrument. Someone (xander?) asked to hear something when I had it up and running, and it is funny that just as I bought CK I got called to do some music for a dance company. What follows isn't exactly what I'll be doing, but I had to experiment around with layers of CK in Sonar, to make sure it would work for this project.

Babbling again...

Anyway, there's 30 seconds of 5 layers of CK in a snippet called - naturally - "Five Layers CK"

Cheers,
Envoy

[Kongaudio]

hi envoy , nice tune
if you find any problem about CK2 with sonar ,please post it here ,like multi output or controller etc ..

Cheers!

[envoy]

hi envoy , nice tune
if you find any problem about CK2 with sonar ,please post it here ,like multi output or controller etc ..

Thanks - like I say, that was just a quick "let's see if this thing works". When I've completed the dance work I'll post it (or some excerpt, as it looks to be 9-10 minutes long).

As to the second thing, wellll, you asked! When I first loaded CK2 into Sonar (Producer Edition, v4.0.3) utilizing the basic VST wrapper (DirectiXer), I thought for a minute I would be regretting my purchase! During both recording and playback, there was a distinct delay before any of the audio functions would start up. For example, after punching record, there would be a second or two delay, and then the click would begin and the recording would start; the start of playback would also not be immediate.

Worse than that, however, was the fact that even when I played as perfectly in time as possible (as a percussionist for 30 years), when I listened to playback (or looked at timestamps for midi info), I could see that there was something bogging down, and the timing had not gotten recorded as I played it, but was like the midi stream was flowing through mud or something!

I should mention this is the *only* VST I've come across with this problem.

How or why I thought about doing this, I don't know, but I had read about people using the VST of energyXT as a wrapper for Sonar, and while I only had the demo version I thought I would try it. And, unbelievably enough, it cured those problems (at least AFAIK at this point). I popped for their reasonable registration fee so that settings would be saved between sessions, and now I'm back up to speed.

Sorry this reply was so wordy. I hope you get a chance to have other people try CK in Sonar, to see if others have this same problem. Thankfully, I found a solution, but since CK is the first plug to show these symptoms, it might be a good thing for you to look into...

Cheers,
Envoy

[Frunobulax]

During both recording and playback, there was a distinct delay before any of the audio functions would start up. For example, after punching record, there would be a second or two delay, and then the click would begin and the recording would start; the start of playback would also not be immediate.

I've been getting the same thing in Project 5, v2 with both CK2 and CW. Haven't tried them in Sonar 3 yet.

[Kongaudio]

i havn't test DirectiXer with sonar ,envoy , could you try it with Cakewalk VST Adapter?

[envoy]

i havn't test DirectiXer with sonar ,envoy , could you try it with Cakewalk VST Adapter?

I'll get back to you, but it may be a couple days (other work in the way). I'll try and check this out and let you know...

Envoy

edited because I found the Cakewalk VST Adapter

[envoy]

Man, I hate it when I can't get something out of my head! I put some other work on hold and took a few minutes to check out the Cakewalk VST adapter, and the problem is still there (at least on my system).

I am using v4.0 of the Adapter; I had it re-run a scan of all my plugs, including CK. After all that was done, I deleted any of the DirectiXer-configured plugs, just so there wasn't any conflict. I loaded one instance of CK and recorded a simple 8th note pattern. I then added a track and used energyXT as an 'adapter' for CK.

When using the Cakewalk adapter, there is still a delay before any sound, both during recording and playback. Additionally, notes are not recorded in good sync, and play back with less rhythmic accuracy than I know I recorded them.

If I delete the track with the CK/Cakewalk combo, playback becomes normal - in other words, the CK/Cakewalk combo stalls playback for all tracks for a short amount of time (less than one second, but definitely a noticeable delay) for *all* tracks. Once this track is deleted, I can tell that the track recorded with XT as the wrapper works as intended, and is much better in time.

Hope this helps, now I'm behind on my other work!

Cheers,
Envoy

[Frunobulax]

I'm getting my delay problems with Version 4.4.4 of the Cakewalk VST Adapter.

Haven't had much time yet to play around with this, so I can't give much specific information right now.

[envoy]

I'm getting my delay problems with Version 4.4.4 of the Cakewalk VST Adapter.

Just out of curiousity, where should I look to see the version number of the Cw VST Adapter? Take a look at the properies of the .exe, or run it and look for it there?

Envoy

[Frunobulax]

Just out of curiousity, where should I look to see the version number of the Cw VST Adapter? Take a look at the properies of the .exe, or run it and look for it there?

When you run the adaptor, the first screen is a welcome screen. In the lower left hand corner is an "About" button. Click that and you're there.

The .exe properties probably also would tell you, but I haven't checked that.

[envoy]

When you run the adaptor, the first screen is a welcome screen. In the lower left hand corner is an "About" button. Click that and you're there.

Thanks, that did it. I'm running 4.4.4 as well.

Cheers,
Envoy