Mouse scroll as a simple midi controller...
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- KVRist
- 488 posts since 2 Mar, 2004
Does anybody know if such a device/plug exists. I am looking for a way of adjusting vst parameters 1 at a time without having to adjust the slider with the mouse and without having an external midi controller.
The main purpose would be to add a way effect to guitar. It would be just a quick up down flick of the scroll wheel. While doable with the mouse pointer and slider but requires a bit more precision and to keep the mouse button pressed down.
I thought a bout doing this with a joystick as well but I don'w want to use a USB mouse (probable impact on my Tascam), I do have an older joystick that connected to a gamecard but I don't have a gamecard and you can't buy them anymore. There is software that will convert these joystick signals to midi controller signals, so that might be an intersting way to go, if I could only source a gamecard.
The main purpose would be to add a way effect to guitar. It would be just a quick up down flick of the scroll wheel. While doable with the mouse pointer and slider but requires a bit more precision and to keep the mouse button pressed down.
I thought a bout doing this with a joystick as well but I don'w want to use a USB mouse (probable impact on my Tascam), I do have an older joystick that connected to a gamecard but I don't have a gamecard and you can't buy them anymore. There is software that will convert these joystick signals to midi controller signals, so that might be an intersting way to go, if I could only source a gamecard.
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
does the plugin you wish to control allow you to map CC numbers to the parameters? i could make you a plugin that will let you control a parameter with just the mousewheel but the only way it can send the data messages to the plugin is with CC data.
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 19 Aug, 2004 from Toronto
Bidule can do this with its HID Data Extractor (found under Misc. in the right click menu).
If you need it, there's a VST Bridge for Bidule too.
:^)
allofdrab
If you need it, there's a VST Bridge for Bidule too.
:^)
allofdrab
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 488 posts since 2 Mar, 2004
I've looked at Bidule in the past and I wouldn't know where to start with it. I'll take another look at it though...allofdrab wrote:Bidule can do this with its HID Data Extractor (found under Misc. in the right click menu).
If you need it, there's a VST Bridge for Bidule too.
:^)
allofdrab
Thanks
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
Just made this for you:
MouseWheelCC

MouseWheelCC (pc only)
There are two controls, the top left adjusts the CC number, and the top right adjusts the wheel sensitivity. There's no interpolation/inertia or anything fancy, so it's likely to make awful stepping artefacts :s but you can at least record the automation and then apply that line directly to the parameter later for a smoother effect if needs be.
It requires focus to use, which means you need to click it before it will detect the mousewheel movements. I've not found a way around that, unfortunately. This probably means that you won't be able to 'midi learn' with this, because such tricks normally cancel when the synth loses focus :s but if you can set the CC manually, or you already know it, it will be fine.
The whole panel is resizeable so you can make it as big as your screen and leave it there if you want.
Hope this is handy
MouseWheelCC
MouseWheelCC (pc only)
There are two controls, the top left adjusts the CC number, and the top right adjusts the wheel sensitivity. There's no interpolation/inertia or anything fancy, so it's likely to make awful stepping artefacts :s but you can at least record the automation and then apply that line directly to the parameter later for a smoother effect if needs be.
It requires focus to use, which means you need to click it before it will detect the mousewheel movements. I've not found a way around that, unfortunately. This probably means that you won't be able to 'midi learn' with this, because such tricks normally cancel when the synth loses focus :s but if you can set the CC manually, or you already know it, it will be fine.
The whole panel is resizeable so you can make it as big as your screen and leave it there if you want.
Hope this is handy
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Cool! 
I wouldn't expect there to be (if I understand this plug correctly) stuff like that would need to be implemented in the plug being controlled...There's no interpolation/inertia or anything fancy, so it's likely to make awful stepping artefacts
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- KVRian
- 1272 posts since 11 Apr, 2002 from Nashville, TN
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
you are indeed correct IIRs. however, due to the small size of the wheel, it's a bit fiddly to get big movements without a big sensitivity, which will move the control in big steps (like, 20 with each click of the wheel) - it could still be possible to at least fill in some gaps between those low and high values in the CC resolution.
of course, i can't be arsed.
of course, i can't be arsed.
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
haydxn, would the mouse driver settings for sensitivity have any effect on this plug?
If you have requests for Korg VST features or changes, they are listening at https://support.korguser.net/hc/en-us/requests/new
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 488 posts since 2 Mar, 2004
Okay... So I didn't wait...
It works great... WahT has a midi learn but to get around that I clicked on MouseWheelCC than locked it. Went back to WahT hit the learn button, then the wah dial clicked on the locked MouseWheelCC and hit the scroll. Worked 1st time.
Thanks again Haydxn... I really appreciate this and I can't believe how quickly you put this together.
It works great... WahT has a midi learn but to get around that I clicked on MouseWheelCC than locked it. Went back to WahT hit the learn button, then the wah dial clicked on the locked MouseWheelCC and hit the scroll. Worked 1st time.
Thanks again Haydxn... I really appreciate this and I can't believe how quickly you put this together.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 488 posts since 2 Mar, 2004
I think this more of an issue with WahT then with MouseWheelCC but I can use this to adjust wah (or other paramters). I can record the movements within MouseWheelCC but when play back the MouseWheelCCand Waht are no longer linked. Any ideas?
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
ahh! silly me i think i see what's going on there :doh:darcyb62 wrote:I think this more of an issue with WahT then with MouseWheelCC but I can use this to adjust wah (or other paramters). I can record the movements within MouseWheelCC but when play back the MouseWheelCCand Waht are no longer linked. Any ideas?
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
