KVR Audio

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:20 pm

Anyway...I'm really excited about the UAD-1 Flexipack which will start you out with the project-pack plug-ins plus a $500 voucher to the UAD store for whatever plugs you want. If it's cheaper than the Studio Pack, I'd be all over this.

On the other hand though, I was just messing around with the Kjaerhus GCO-1 and the sound examples of the UAD-1 compressors on the website (the LA2A bass example and the 1176 acoustic guitar), and you'd be surprised at how damn close I got to the LA2A and the 1176 with the right GCO-1 settings. I don't say this as a dig at the UA plug-ins though, it's more of a, wow, Kjaerhus plugs rule king of thing.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:28 pm

JeffSanders wrote:
snooky wrote:yeah, putte is the last cry of all things in digital audio...I'm just so baffled over the complete arrogance about this..it's like a widespread PT mentality "oh, this plug is super expensive, therefore it HAS to be good!" sheesh...I know that the plugs sound marvelous, but htey are far from the final step in DSP technology...there ARE native alternatives, one doesn't have to have a dsp card to make recordings that sound equally as good as stuff recorded on hardware.

It's a Myth.
Eeeeaaasy...I take it you've never used the UAD-1.

nope I haven't..can't say I wouldn't like to test these so called "superior" plugs, but I sure as hell wouldn't prefer them over native plugs..it's the same tech.

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:30 pm

putte wrote:
AndrewSimon wrote:UAD is amazing.
There is really nothing that comes close in native formats.
.. i disagree. i prefer Hydratone over Pultec pro.

You are right, I didn't mean every plug is superb but many of them are.
I do not like Hydratone but here are my native favorites:

TRacks over Fairchild

(maybe I am just used to it so much)
Kjaerhus GAC-1 over CS-1.
And of course Amplitube over Nigel
Also want to mention Kjaerhus GMO-1 that gets used a lot.
I don't consider it a competitor to the UAD Chorus/Flanger because they sound so different and I use both depending on the application.

putte · Post by **putte** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:30 pm

snooky wrote:Eeeeaaasy...I take it you've never used the UAD-1.

nope I haven't..[/quote]

.. snooky, after all we´re talking sound, arent we?

putte · Post by **putte** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:33 pm

.. and after all these beers quoting isnt my fave discipline right now .. hrhrhrrh[/quote]

Frippertronix · Post by **Frippertronix** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:01 pm

snooky wrote:still, it's not real units is it? it's still digital audio that won't make your audio shine like analog gear does..it's all marketing hype...untill you actually record your audio in resolutions above 200khz, all of the numbercrunchin is pointless...it's currently old tech in a new suit.

Why 200 KHz?

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:08 pm

@ fripper:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

http://tascamforums.com/index.php?act=P ... f=8&t=2717

urosh · Post by **urosh** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:48 pm

Nice thread, scientific and all, even links to some
graphs and tascam forums where u have all of these
rocket scientists from nasa and stuff.

Anyway snook is right bout one thing, u need very
high sample rates if your plugin interiors are doin'
some kind of nonlinear processing. Howmuch of over
sampling is open for discusion and personal opinions .
Also , its much easyer to built antialias filter in
ADC if u are doin 96k instead of 48. And what we have
ia far from be-all-end-all in DSP. However it eludes
me how these kind of discusions are helping people
making better records ? Can someone help me on that
one ?

Cheerz people
urosh

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:54 pm

...urosh:

that graph and all was posted because I'm fed up with the overhyping of old tech...please read my complete statment(s) here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1431560

urosh · Post by **urosh** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:54 pm

BTW snooky thats nice graph you posted in other thread,
its green and all. Can you please explain here what
does that graph mean ? I am eager to find out, it must
be something of great importance.

cheerz
urosh

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:55 pm

my point is, why bother with dsp cards and such, when the fundamental technology behind them are flawed...new technology will hopefully resolve some of the issues, and maybe also will it make people see that you DON'T need dsp cards hardware VA's etc etc to make music..the tech behind it is old and dated, better spend the money on singing lessons and time making music.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:58 pm

urosh wrote:BTW snooky thats nice graph you posted in other thread,
its green and all. Can you please explain here what
does that graph mean ? I am eager to find out, it must
be something of great importance.

cheerz
urosh

sure, it's a graph of recorded impulses (it doesn't state specifically what gear was used tho) that shows the resolution of the dif technologies for recording audio.

Marco Raaphorst · Post by **Marco Raaphorst** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:59 pm

but it needs that PCI dongle, right?

I don't like that dongle. I want native stuff.

LijEyasu · Post by **LijEyasu** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:02 am

I hate to be an ass, but that f**king pic of Putte is driving me nuts. Bloody throw that thing away. For the sake of all good

djverne · Post by **djverne** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:05 am

snooky wrote:
putte wrote:.. its really really oh so really worth to have an UAD card ..
why? it's old tech and it won't be able to handle any new audioformats..why shell out on a expensive DSP card that is basically designed to be used with technology that is on the way out...there's no resell or future value in this thing..there is native software that is equally efficient for the purose..it's all a big hoax using DSP cards to give a better sound.

Snooky your so full of shit. Have your ever used any UAD plugins.

Tons of off-topic BS inside! Sweet!