Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
I think it is time to bring back the Putte Teletubbies. 
(for those that remember the good old days of TuggerGifs).
A3ntar, the framework I was referring to was the difference between AT1 and AT2. It's not a simple update, it is a new application and there's a lot to it.
Guys, sometimes making a product with as much as this has takes longer than one might have anticipated. There are a lot of complexities you run across in many different areas. However, when at the end of the day the product comes out and is better for it then that's all that matters.
The "getting old n' gray" jokes were getting OLD themselves right around page 70!
The getting ANGRY posts are puzzling. It's only a plug-in after all! 
If you REALLY need guitar amps and fx it is not like this is the first product to ever have it. There's plenty out there in hardware and software. "Threatening" to get GR2 is just silly. Get it if that's what you want. I am sure it isn't bad. But, I CAN tell you that it is not just like AT2. That'd be on the surface maybe...graphics and what it seems to have. But, functionally they are very different. Different character in the modeling/emulation, different techniques (such as DSM for the very important modeling of the saturation) and the ability for AT2 to mix and match the components of the amp. Now, some people on here have played that down like it was no big deal. But, I can tell you as a self-professed gear slut that THAT feature alone, being able to mix and match components of modeled Vox, Marshall, Mesa, Fender, THD, Supro and others is REALLY, REALLY cool! It is a production tool that I would not miss having in my set up, period.
Now, lucky for me that I have it. I have had it for months. I know that only a handful of people here have seen it in person at trade shows and to the rest of you it "seems" like it doesn't exist. But, it does exist and is getting closer and closer to being ready for the world. Also, I wouldn't even be interested in popping into this thread if I didn't think it was one of the coolest plug-ins ever. Seriously. Jokes about boobs and skeletons are fun n' all but I hope that no one loses sight of what this product is likely to be for you. By all means, check it out when it is in stores (and I don't know about demo versions, I was just saying that I think it will be something you can try out in a store which is what some people say they like to do before they buy).
Just my 2 cents.
(for those that remember the good old days of TuggerGifs). A3ntar, the framework I was referring to was the difference between AT1 and AT2. It's not a simple update, it is a new application and there's a lot to it.
Guys, sometimes making a product with as much as this has takes longer than one might have anticipated. There are a lot of complexities you run across in many different areas. However, when at the end of the day the product comes out and is better for it then that's all that matters.
The "getting old n' gray" jokes were getting OLD themselves right around page 70!
The getting ANGRY posts are puzzling. It's only a plug-in after all! If you REALLY need guitar amps and fx it is not like this is the first product to ever have it. There's plenty out there in hardware and software. "Threatening" to get GR2 is just silly. Get it if that's what you want. I am sure it isn't bad. But, I CAN tell you that it is not just like AT2. That'd be on the surface maybe...graphics and what it seems to have. But, functionally they are very different. Different character in the modeling/emulation, different techniques (such as DSM for the very important modeling of the saturation) and the ability for AT2 to mix and match the components of the amp. Now, some people on here have played that down like it was no big deal. But, I can tell you as a self-professed gear slut that THAT feature alone, being able to mix and match components of modeled Vox, Marshall, Mesa, Fender, THD, Supro and others is REALLY, REALLY cool! It is a production tool that I would not miss having in my set up, period. Now, lucky for me that I have it. I have had it for months. I know that only a handful of people here have seen it in person at trade shows and to the rest of you it "seems" like it doesn't exist. But, it does exist and is getting closer and closer to being ready for the world. Also, I wouldn't even be interested in popping into this thread if I didn't think it was one of the coolest plug-ins ever. Seriously. Jokes about boobs and skeletons are fun n' all but I hope that no one loses sight of what this product is likely to be for you. By all means, check it out when it is in stores (and I don't know about demo versions, I was just saying that I think it will be something you can try out in a store which is what some people say they like to do before they buy).
Just my 2 cents.
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Cosmic Bandito Cosmic Bandito https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=55429
- KVRist
- 307 posts since 21 Jan, 2005
[quote="Squids"]being able to mix and match components of modeled Vox, Marshall, Mesa, Fender, THD, Supro and others is REALLY, REALLY cool! It is a production tool that I would not miss having in my set up, period.
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I think many of us, who are very familiar with the current state of Amp sims, would be happier to have 1 stunningly realistic amp model (even if it was original and not modeled after something vintage), than the ability to mix and match virtual models that don't have that special "something" we all know is missing. But we will have to wait and see if it lives up the hype...
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I think many of us, who are very familiar with the current state of Amp sims, would be happier to have 1 stunningly realistic amp model (even if it was original and not modeled after something vintage), than the ability to mix and match virtual models that don't have that special "something" we all know is missing. But we will have to wait and see if it lives up the hype...
Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real.
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
Squids wrote:By all means, check it out when it is in stores (and I don't know about demo versions, I was just saying that I think it will be something you can try out in a store which is what some people say they like to do before they buy).
what? who?Yeah, I love to demo software at my local Guitar Center, so much better with the unfamiliar, half broken equipment they have, not to mention the lovely background noise.
Now why would anybody prefer to do it in their own studio?
OK so I will asume this means possibly no demo, big dongle.... boy this thing better sound great.
So what about the DI box? I know it wasn't formaly announced but IK did say in a press release:
besides the floor pedal we will have a few "hardware supprises" at NAMM
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Perhaps so. I can certainly relate to the desire to have an accurate model of a particular piece of gear that I like. In fact, I sent some of my own stomp boxes to Italy for them to model such as my vintage Fuzzface, CE-1 and MXR pedals. I didn't send any of my amps but of course I love the amps that have been modeled (AC30 is probably my favorite... and the Supro for that Zep sound).Cosmic Bandito wrote:Squids wrote:being able to mix and match components of modeled Vox, Marshall, Mesa, Fender, THD, Supro and others is REALLY, REALLY cool! It is a production tool that I would not miss having in my set up, period.
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I think many of us, who are very familiar with the current state of Amp sims, would be happier to have 1 stunningly realistic amp model (even if it was original and not modeled after something vintage), than the ability to mix and match virtual models that don't have that special "something" we all know is missing. But we will have to wait and see if it lives up the hype...
However, I would say this. If there were many people who are looking for just ONE stunning amp sim then I'd venture to say "Why not just get a real amp?". It has been said by others and IMO that is a good suggestion! If there is ONE particular amp that someone is looking for then that's easy enough! Just get it. (in my case, an AC30 from '64 does the trick
or a Fenter Tweed Twin... actually, I can't choose just one which is my- and many other musicians and producers I know- whole problem!!!! Hence... one of the reasons 20,000 hybrid amps is appealing... for not much more than the price of a Pignose and a guitar case. ). In my opinion, the advantages of amp and effects plug-ins is mostly convenience, variety of processing tools for production and the more authentic they sound the more useful it is on a final musical project of any level of hobby to pro. I still wouldn't abandon my real amp and fx though. But, it depends on the project, the session, the time, the flexibility required (such as trying out DIFFERENT amps and fx set ups after the guitar is already recorded... hence the need for a variety of them as opposed to just one).
But, also, what is said here in the forum doesn't always reflect what goes on out there in the music making world. I get to have an interesting diverse perspective because I talk to a lot of pro producers, musicians, techs, engineers as well as semi pro and hobbyists. There's definitely a demand for the unique capabilities of AT2. I have no doubt whatsoever.
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Well, I don't know about a demo you can try in your studio. Although, most IK products do have one so I'd expect something one way or another. Just a guess.AndrewSimon wrote:Squids wrote:By all means, check it out when it is in stores (and I don't know about demo versions, I was just saying that I think it will be something you can try out in a store which is what some people say they like to do before they buy).
Yeah, I love to demo software at my local Guitar Center, so much better with the unfamiliar, half broken equipment they have, not to mention the lovely background noise.
Now why would anybody prefer to do it in their own studio?
OK so I will asume this means possibly no demo, big dongle.... boy this thing better sound great.
So what about the DI box? I know it wasn't formaly announced but IK did say in a press release:
besides the floor pedal we will have a few "hardware supprises" at NAMM
As to talking about surprises, unless you are baiting the Squids (and Squids are already bait
) then you don't want me to get into trouble now do you? Just kidding. Trust me, I say about as much as anyone can say without getting slapped in the face with a wet squid. 
So, no, I can't say anything but NAMM is just around the corner. One thing I can say to anyone wondering is that there won't be many announcements of products that are too far off. I know of IK/SR products for example that have been in the works for a while that were never announced and they still won't be announced at NAMM because we're not sure when they'll be done. Trust me, the temptation is there. But, I also want to see Studiophonik in people's hands first. Catch up, basically. Then you can see what ELSE there is. It IS more fun that way anyway. I am ALL for shorter announcement to release times whenever possible. But, I am ALSO (as always) for top featured products that have longevity. I am very confident that both AmpliTube 2 and Studiophonik possess these qualities. I know it even, if anything, for my OWN musical use! I NEEDED these tools!!!!!
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Regardless of when AT2 will come out, regardless of whether there's a demo or not (obviously there better should be one, without any dongle requirements, as with the lame Waves GTR demo...), I'm more interested in the foot controller, how it performs, build quality (it looks a bit cheesy on the pics, not exactly heavy rugged), achieveable latencies, configurability and the likes.
The GR2 controller looks pretty sturdy, but from what I gather they missed out on some important things, such as not enough patches being accessable at once (seems to be a new fashion recently, the Line 6 and VOX controllers are no better - while all my older MIDI floorpedals are offering access to 10 patches straight away...) and the thing not throwing out standard MIDI CCs - which is quite uberlame if it's true indeed.
Unfortunately the only local music store actually dealing with software (heck, imagine, there's indeed only *one* in a city of 500,000+ people) is as lame as it could get. Whenever I tried any software there, the machines crashed big time, latencies were lousy to say the least (they allways seem to install some funny audio interfaces) and when you ask the guys a most simple question they're allready looking at you as if you were asking them to explain Einsteins theories.
So I'm sure that even *if* they may sell AT2 along with the foot controller (which allready is doubtable), they won't have it installed properly.
Sometimes, over here, I'm feeling like living in electronic stoneage...
The GR2 controller looks pretty sturdy, but from what I gather they missed out on some important things, such as not enough patches being accessable at once (seems to be a new fashion recently, the Line 6 and VOX controllers are no better - while all my older MIDI floorpedals are offering access to 10 patches straight away...) and the thing not throwing out standard MIDI CCs - which is quite uberlame if it's true indeed.
Unfortunately the only local music store actually dealing with software (heck, imagine, there's indeed only *one* in a city of 500,000+ people) is as lame as it could get. Whenever I tried any software there, the machines crashed big time, latencies were lousy to say the least (they allways seem to install some funny audio interfaces) and when you ask the guys a most simple question they're allready looking at you as if you were asking them to explain Einsteins theories.
So I'm sure that even *if* they may sell AT2 along with the foot controller (which allready is doubtable), they won't have it installed properly.
Sometimes, over here, I'm feeling like living in electronic stoneage...
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Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRAF
- 1942 posts since 29 Aug, 2003 from Austin, TX
Squids,
I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!
If I ever buy another IKMM product, it will be because I trust you.
If they don't pay you for damage control then I think you should get a huge tax write off.
Namaste,
Riley
I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!
If I ever buy another IKMM product, it will be because I trust you.
If they don't pay you for damage control then I think you should get a huge tax write off.
Namaste,
Riley
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- KVRist
- 43 posts since 28 Feb, 2005 from örtlicher Planet
yes, you're right, sqwitz! the best sqwitz-post, I read so far in the last years...Squids wrote:It's only a plug-in after all!
...rofbctl! means: rolling on floor, besides christmas-trees, laughing).
@midiworks: waiting on your plug, man! winter-namm is it da, ja!?!
mary christmas to ALL OF YOU!
love,
_patch
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- KVRian
- 1107 posts since 31 Oct, 2002 from the high desert
You mean like you can do on a Pod,GNX,Guitar Rig,etc??Squids wrote: being able to mix and match components of modeled Vox, Marshall, Mesa, Fender, THD, Supro and others is REALLY, REALLY cool! It is a production tool that I would not miss having in my set up, period.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
You can allegedly do it at a "lower level" than on most of those units.
But... well, besides the point already made about having just ONE excellent amp, surely even if I "only" had about 4,000 combinations (as opposed to 20,000) I'd still be in pretty good shape.
As mentioned earlier, the only thing that will matter at all will be a playable demo. And if there's no playable demo, then there's much less point in considering purchasing it. I've made choices before without testing, but not a $1,000 choice.
But... well, besides the point already made about having just ONE excellent amp, surely even if I "only" had about 4,000 combinations (as opposed to 20,000) I'd still be in pretty good shape.
As mentioned earlier, the only thing that will matter at all will be a playable demo. And if there's no playable demo, then there's much less point in considering purchasing it. I've made choices before without testing, but not a $1,000 choice.
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- TopModernGeezer
- 2679 posts since 14 Mar, 2001 from Stuttgart, Germany
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
I finally got me an acoustic guitar that I can live with. (plays like an electric)
Cheap too!... compare to the Taylor T5 I almost purchased
more info:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=h ... id/513021/
So what happens when you get an acoustic?
You go a little country
(from this month KVR competiton)
http://www.andras-shimon.com/MUSIC/JohnAndJane192.mp3
As usual everything is Amplitube1 ..... not bad for an old plug.
Cheap too!... compare to the Taylor T5 I almost purchased
more info:http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=h ... id/513021/
So what happens when you get an acoustic?
You go a little country
(from this month KVR competiton)http://www.andras-shimon.com/MUSIC/JohnAndJane192.mp3
As usual everything is Amplitube1 ..... not bad for an old plug.