KVR Audio

kangul · Post by **kangul** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:45 pm

Yeah, Podium is a little hard for the beginner, beacuse it's based on a totally different idea of the workflow. But once you understand it music making becomes so easy... If you decide to give Podium another chance, here is the latest "getting started" guide. http://www.zynewave.com/guide/guide02_start.htm

Muzik 4 Machines · Post by **Muzik 4 Machines** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:13 am

Colonel Flashback wrote:thanks for the info but i've read the manual...

do you know a host that offers "render in place"?

acid
ctrl+m
and_draw_it_where_you_need_it

stag · Post by **stag** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:38 am

Colonel Flashback wrote:1. Say i've got a vsti playing bar 9-16.
2. *Freeze*
3. i now would like to be able to move the frozen part around and/or make copies of it in the same track/lane. Being able to still do some volume automation on the same track would be nice as well.

No way to do this in my current host, Ableton Live.
AFAIK this isn't possible in SX either.
Does Sonar offer this (or any other host)?

Do you mean Audio Export, i don´t think there isn´t a single Multitracker\Sequencer not capable of it.
SX does it well, don´t know about the others.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:06 am

Exactly why I've never bothered with freezing. It seems some users have forgotten that exporting is still a very useable option. It does everything that freezing does; the only difference is you have to manually turn off the plugins to do the saving-CPU thing. You don't have to lose the original channels etc, either. In fact I always save previous channels and mute+turn off all plugins as a matter of course. Same as with freezing...if you want to go back to an earlier version, you just unmute and turn back on.

Colonel Flashback...all the main hosts can do exactly what you're after. Render/export/bounce it instead of freeze it - it's exactly the same thing but with a few more mouse clicks is all.

Colonel Flashback · Post by **Colonel Flashback** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:12 am

kritikon wrote:a few more mouse clicks is all.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:49 am

Right....so you'll buy a whole new host instead of using those few mouse clicks?

LBN · Post by **LBN** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:11 am

Here's a hilarious video from a few years ago explaining how to do freeze in Cubase SX v1. Why anyone would want a one-button solution when this is all you have to do is beyond me.

Colonel Flashback · Post by **Colonel Flashback** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:02 am

Why anyone would want to use SX is beyond me...

Colonel Flashback · Post by **Colonel Flashback** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:06 am

kritikon wrote:Right....so you'll buy a whole new host instead of using those few mouse clicks?

i bounce a LOT, it disrupts the workflow and i got enough wrist problems already.
Freeze in Sonar is 100% perfect. I'll probably wait to see if Live 6 gets usable Freeze (and copy+paste which don't take 15 sec to complete) and if not, i'll switch to Sonar.

keyman_sam · Post by **keyman_sam** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:00 am

In sonar, bouncing to tracks is a 2 step process for me. Select clip, press F6 and Enter, and i'm done.
Then i can move that audio clip wherever i want.

I need "Freeze" that works like this...