KVR Audio

Reverse Engineer · Post by **Reverse Engineer** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:13 pm

More problems

It causes an error when it's scanned by soundforge 8 (it's a "safe" error wherein it doesn't crash, just reports an issue with oatmeal.dll. As it's not a vsti host (SF) it doesn't matter (although the fact an error is reported at all is something i'm sure you'd loove to know

) The real problem is, and that's me just got round to testing it in acid, but it crashes that completely...it scans for it fine, and adds it to the vsti list fine, but on loading oatmeal into a track a crash error report pops up, and when you either send it or close it acid just bails altogether (as in a complete shutdown....acid50.exe unloaded etc.) If there's any (more) info i can give, then i'm more than happy to. It's the latest "big gui" version of oatmeal i have.

Dunc · Post by **Dunc** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:10 pm

Yeah, I have the same problem with the Cakewalk Wrapper. It gets to Oatmeal then crashes out. Tried all the versions of Oatmeal, same thing.
Using it in EnergyXT is ok though.

Dunc...

SampleScience · Post by **SampleScience** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:15 pm

I've made a preset bank fro Oatmeal, made it with the first version, I don't know if it will wokr with the latest one but anyway... here it is...

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/sa ... tmeal.html

1 - 15 Presets Bank
2 - 1 demo tune made with Oatmeal + samples (for percussions)

Thanks Fuzzpilz!!!

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:22 pm

Reverse Engineer wrote:It causes an error when it's scanned by soundforge 8... in acid it crashes completely...

Yeah, what's that about? I've had more problems with these two apps than any others with VSTi plug-ins. I still use SF8 but uninstalled Acid Pro 5.x because of more than a few problems with loading plugs that no other host has. I have to wonder if their code is so tight that any variance in the DLL is a problem.

Fuzzpilz · Post by **Fuzzpilz** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:26 pm

I didn't try Acid Pro because certain things about it are immensely aggravating (why would I want to have an SQL server constantly running just so I could use a trial version of some music software occasionally?), but I installed the Sonar 5 demo; while the wrapper seems slightly flaky, I haven't been able to make it crash yet, but I'm working on trying to reproduce or find the problem and then hopefully fixing it.

Zero dB · Post by **Zero dB** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:19 pm

Crashes Acid Pro 5 here too. Any fix would be really appreciated

tranceglobal · Post by **tranceglobal** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:42 pm

Fuzzpilz wrote:I didn't try Acid Pro because certain things about it are immensely aggravating (why would I want to have an SQL server constantly running just so I could use a trial version of some music software occasionally?), but I installed the Sonar 5 demo; while the wrapper seems slightly flaky, I haven't been able to make it crash yet, but I'm working on trying to reproduce or find the problem and then hopefully fixing it.

I have the same problem with Sonar5- the scan fails at Oatmeal. The wrapper does SEEM flaky to be sure, and its kind of annoying, but I can verify it is actually very solid in operation for the most part. I have only encountered one other plug besides Oatmeal that fails in the wrapper. I have been using eXT within Sonar as a workaround, but it would be great to have this synth on my main list within Sonar.

Good synth with much potential. Thoughful revisions could make this very special indeed.

Thanks for your efforts so far.

D.

Fuzzpilz · Post by **Fuzzpilz** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:49 pm

I've been able to reproduce the wrapper scan crash now - unfortunately it doesn't actually crash anywhere in Oatmeal, but rather after it already seems to be done with it (after Oatmeal's destructor finishes running); so I suspect there's something really silly going on somewhere that I can't spot so far.

Fuzzpilz · Post by **Fuzzpilz** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:18 am

The crash is gone for me and a guy I know who uses Sonar. I've also done the displaying-the-patch-name-when-not-over-a-control thing. New version here.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:19 am

Experiment with adding sliders!

Here are two sliders (red and blue) in use with the amp envelope. (Look at the bottom, remember this is an experiment.)

Code I added to the oms file. The slider is animated by moving the x and y position rather than creating 43 different sliders! Here is the slider.png.

@control
src=large_mod_cj\slider.png
name=slider
type=knob
size=15,45
frames=43
x=0
y=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,3

3,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42

# AMP ENVELOPE KNOBS
@placement
control=slider
action=Attack
pos=175,571

Fuzzpilz · Post by **Fuzzpilz** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:21 am

The slider control actually only uses the first frame as a backdrop on top of which the handle is drawn.

Edit: oh, it's actually a slider-looking knob. Silly me.

Fuzzpilz · Post by **Fuzzpilz** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:24 am

Forgot to add: the fix that made it work in Sonar may help with Acid as well. Do tell me if it does.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:28 am

Fuzzpilz, one question: Are you like, hm, mad?
You're putting out updates faster than a freaking coding machine!

If all programmers only were like that...

Guess you should put out something with copy protection. The hackers would go all crazy.
"Oh no, not another release of that dude - we allready cracked 5 of him today"

Zero dB · Post by **Zero dB** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:32 am

Wow, what a quick fix! Thanks so much for that Fuzzpilz - works fine in Acid now. And thanks for a great synth

Reverse Engineer · Post by **Reverse Engineer** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:35 am

Patches

tconrady - http://tamw.atari-users.net/TC_Oatmeal_1.zip
mine - http://www.filelodge.com/files/room16/3 ... ank_01.fxb
ourobros - http://ouroboros.audioshot.net/Presets/oromeal1.fxb
thecontrolcentre - http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/thecontrolce ... bank_1.fxb
SampleScience - http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/sa ... 5pbank.fxb

Oatmeal (mediocre free VSTi) - 37-4 (fixed Renoise problem)