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john1954 · Post by **john1954** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:04 pm

When i'm fooling around i often play gm files and play along with them.
Anyone ever use this?
Would it work on the receptor?
as unsupported, i guess?

geekboy · Post by **geekboy** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:10 pm

I understand the need completely.

It does what you think, but I've heard that the sounds of Bandstand are still a little cheesy

I'm thinking of using my old Roland MT-32 just for this purpose.

john1954 · Post by **john1954** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:15 am

Can't be any cheesier than i currently use, either the audigy -synth, or the sounds from my clavinova.
I also can get ( supposedly) garritan general midu thru finale. Although i haven't even seen that advertised for sale.

thesoundsmith · Post by **thesoundsmith** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:15 am

There's always Colossus, though I haven't yet really gone through their GM bank.

bernie9 · Post by **bernie9** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:37 am

I heard the sounds were good, but they are revamping the program to load samples faster. It is due out the third quarter of this year.

Hybernation · Post by **Hybernation** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:07 pm

Colossus has a GM "bank" but there's no way to get it to respond multi-timbrally (is that a word?) to GM program change msgs, and one instance can only load 8 sounds/channels. So, making it operate like a "GM Module" is not gonna happen (and I believe that is what Bandstand excels at). Granted the Colossus sounds are top-notch.

Kermit Jagger · Post by **Kermit Jagger** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:13 pm

I spent a long time with Bandstand at my local dealer as I really wanted it to be the solution I was after. Alas, I was forced to conclude that my Korg NX5R is not going to retire from GM/XG duties any time soon.

Bandstand just doesn't give the same results. Even though it has Gb worth of data, the little Korg sounds MUCH better when you listen to a GM file. Secondly, Bandstand trips itself when you have program change messages in the files (other than at the beginning of each track).

As much as I like other NI Products (I have Komplete 3 and Kore), Bandstand was very disappointing and a waste of money in my opinion.

john1954 · Post by **john1954** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:46 pm

Kermit: well, that's a bummer. What makes the korg sound better?
faster access to the sounds?
better sounds?
I pretty much never have any program changes in these songs.

Have you heard of this garritan product?
The only place i have seen it mentioned so far is on the finale 2007 update page.

thesoundsmith · Post by **thesoundsmith** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:29 pm

So far gary has not made any formal announcements of a stand-alone GM app, although he has hinted at it often enough. Bandstand suffers from the same problem that plagues ALL Kontakt-Kompakt-Intakt products - it takes far, far too long (anything over half a second is useless professionally when changing patches during a song, and the process must NOT stop whatever else is playing, these plugs do neother.)

john1954 · Post by **john1954** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:15 pm

is gary garritan?

Kermit Jagger · Post by **Kermit Jagger** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:50 pm

I think what made the Korg stand out is the sounds working well with one another as opposed to each individual preset sounding good.

john1954 · Post by **john1954** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:01 pm

Kermit: if i was just gonna play the parts, with no program changes, would it work ok, at least based on your demoing.

Kermit Jagger · Post by **Kermit Jagger** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:16 pm

It would work OK, but for the price, I'd still consider a used Sound Canvas, Yamaha MU...

john1954 · Post by **john1954** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:49 pm

bahhh.
I have plenty of modules.A ultra proteus, the sounds in my clavinova 307, a karma. I wonder if the karma has the same sounds as your korg box?
Perhaps i'll wait if/when the garritan gm library for finale comes out.

bernie9 · Post by **bernie9** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:38 pm

Bandstand 1.0.1 R3 was just released 2 days ago. Supposedly greatly improving loading time.

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