Now that's what I call a nice offer!muzycian wrote:Email me your muzys registration name via my mutools account, and i'll give you a LUNA Unlimited User License for free.
LUNA works on OSX now, as a Universal Binary
Muzys = Abandonware?
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- KVRian
- 980 posts since 25 Feb, 2003
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- KVRAF
- 37541 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I know - but all the same what they did to your great work was criminal - its absurd that company's can get away with such destructive vandalism and yet when an honest person speaks out he gets sued.muzycian wrote:And then get sued, and totally not be able to do anything anymore??aMUSEd wrote:I'd describe it as Homicide-ware rather than Abandon-ware. Some asshole company killed off one of the most promising apps going and made it impossible for any further development on it - selfish c**ts - they should have let the original dev have it back if they weren't prepared to actually do anything with it. If I was the dev I'd name and shame them actually - and then carry on developing it regardless - they don't deserve to have it.pljones wrote:I believe all rights to Muzys are now owned by some unnamed company who presumably paid the original developer for them. They've chosen not to release any further licences.
No, thanks.
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- KVRAF
- 37541 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I bought it here on the forum after it was gone - and not regretted it though mainly due to Muzynth as I find some of the conventions and folder behaviour etc hard to work with.meister eder wrote: I'm one of the unlucky ones that bought Muzys3 in good faith a few weeks after the OSX version was announced, which was just a few weeks before the developer dropped it ('abandoned' it) completely.
Some not so few dollars thrown in the dustbin...
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
Listen, they did nothing wrong, legally.aMUSEd wrote:I know - but all the same what they did to your great work was criminal - its absurd that company's can get away with such destructive vandalism and yet when an honest person speaks out he gets sued.
Of course, from the creative point of view, i was (like many others) very disappointed with how things evolved.
Anyway, now there is LUNA
And LUNA is reincarnating a lot of the ideas of Muzys.
And i think that we're already nice on the way to make LUNA a Muzys equivalent.
Some things are still "missing", but other things are already better!
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- KVRAF
- 3528 posts since 18 Apr, 2002 from British Columbia, Canada
will luna eventually adopt a similar approach to samples, ie; a built in multisampler, and simple wave editor, all seamlessly part of the program, like in Muzys?
And will there be a 'playroom' type of thing?
i just love the way muzys can load samples into keyranges and behave like a sampler; audio tracks are nice, but the player in muzys and Cmuzys is just unbeatable. Muzys 3 was one of the best of all time. And i can't even fathom for a moment what the f**k those retards that killed it were thinking, other than just being stupid, greedy fuckheads because they can. Perhaps it was a set-up from the beginning... some big DAW company saw the incredible potential of Muzys, and so they set up a subsidiary company and went to work wooing Jo into what sounded like a great deal - all the time they had no intention of going through with it. It was just a scheme to kill the competition..... yeah, that must be it
And will there be a 'playroom' type of thing?
i just love the way muzys can load samples into keyranges and behave like a sampler; audio tracks are nice, but the player in muzys and Cmuzys is just unbeatable. Muzys 3 was one of the best of all time. And i can't even fathom for a moment what the f**k those retards that killed it were thinking, other than just being stupid, greedy fuckheads because they can. Perhaps it was a set-up from the beginning... some big DAW company saw the incredible potential of Muzys, and so they set up a subsidiary company and went to work wooing Jo into what sounded like a great deal - all the time they had no intention of going through with it. It was just a scheme to kill the competition..... yeah, that must be it
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
Yes, that's definitely the intention!Z3R0T0N1N wrote:will luna eventually adopt a similar approach to samples, ie; a built in multisampler, and simple wave editor, all seamlessly part of the program, like in Muzys?
Yes, also the intention.And will there be a 'playroom' type of thing?
Though it might be in another form. Like playable locators in the composer. It still has to be R&D'd.
Yeah, i agree that the nice integration of all these things was the best part of muzys.i just love the way muzys can load samples into keyranges and behave like a sampler; audio tracks are nice, but the player in muzys and Cmuzys is just unbeatable. Muzys 3 was one of the best of all time.
I'm still missing it too
No, i don't think it was that... (or maybe i am super naive??)And i can't even fathom for a moment what the f**k those retards that killed it were thinking, other than just being stupid, greedy fuckheads because they can. Perhaps it was a set-up from the beginning... some big DAW company saw the incredible potential of Muzys, and so they set up a subsidiary company and went to work wooing Jo into what sounded like a great deal - all the time they had no intention of going through with it. It was just a scheme to kill the competition..... yeah, that must be it
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- KVRAF
- 25050 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Doesn't that question answer itself?muzycian wrote:or maybe i am super naive??
(we're all either too suspicious or too naive at times)
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- KVRAF
- 4222 posts since 23 Feb, 2004 from Tucson Arizona USA
If I write a book and you enjoy it, then if I don't answer your fan mail, the book should become public domain.Ja.x wrote:I don't get the concept of 'abandonware'
That's basically the argument as I understand it.
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- KVRAF
- 3528 posts since 18 Apr, 2002 from British Columbia, Canada
ahhhh... no.
jax, look it up on the net, if you want to get the meaning sans agenda
jax, look it up on the net, if you want to get the meaning sans agenda
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- KVRAF
- 4420 posts since 7 Nov, 2005 from Florida
Muzycian,
Wow! You are one fair dude. I remember buying CM magazine and seeing Muzys for the 1st time - AND LOVING IT. This was before buying Sonar 5 PE - and I still need a lower cpu version for my laptop.
I looked high and low to buy Muzys and kept getting dead end after dead end!
What I do not still understand is that if you buy CM magazine right now on the news stand, they still give you Muzys on the DVD! If the program has copyrights infringements or troubles, shouldn't they yank it for liability reasons?
Will Luna be as good as Muzys? Is it as good now? I would love to get a DAW/Sequencer for my laptop.
Mike
Wow! You are one fair dude. I remember buying CM magazine and seeing Muzys for the 1st time - AND LOVING IT. This was before buying Sonar 5 PE - and I still need a lower cpu version for my laptop.
I looked high and low to buy Muzys and kept getting dead end after dead end!
What I do not still understand is that if you buy CM magazine right now on the news stand, they still give you Muzys on the DVD! If the program has copyrights infringements or troubles, shouldn't they yank it for liability reasons?
Will Luna be as good as Muzys? Is it as good now? I would love to get a DAW/Sequencer for my laptop.
Mike
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- KVRAF
- 1651 posts since 14 May, 2002 from Earth
I bet LUNA will surpase Muzys in time. I'm sure Jo's learned a lot about conding a sequencer in Muzys and is using all of this knowledge while building LUNA.
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- KVRAF
- 37541 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
So will there be a crossgrade for Muzys 3 owners?
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
Though it's not up to me to answer this question, there doesn't seem to be a problem there.Karmacomposer wrote:What I do not still understand is that if you buy CM magazine right now on the news stand, they still give you Muzys on the DVD! If the program has copyrights infringements or troubles, shouldn't they yank it for liability reasons?
Yes, i'm confident it willWill Luna be as good as Muzys?
They are different: LUNA can stream audio from disk, Muzys couldn't. LUNA works on OSX, Muzys didn't. Muzys had more advanced midi functions, live performance features, and had a built-in synth/sampler, LUNA doesn't have these (yet).Is it as good now?
Muzys started as an advanced midi-sequencer, on which an audio system was added.
LUNA starts as a basic modern audio-midi studio, which will be expanded step by step.
Again, they are different stories. But with similar concepts.
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
You can currently get a LUNA Unlimited User License for only 29 Euro!aMUSEd wrote:So will there be a crossgrade for Muzys 3 owners?
And that includes a full year of free updates.
It's a special offer! To everyone!
Available in the MUTOOLS Shop : http://www.mutools.com/shop.html
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
translated in gogglemuzycian wrote:You can currently get a LUNA Unlimited User License for only 29 Euro!aMUSEd wrote:So will there be a crossgrade for Muzys 3 owners?
And that includes a full year of free updates.
It's a special offer! To everyone!
Available in the MUTOOLS Shop : http://www.mutools.com/shop.html
No!
sorry couldent resist 
Subz