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c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:10 am

Hey, go over to www.pianoteq.com and check it out. I found out about this from the guys over at the Muse Receptor Yahoo group. Phil mentioned it worked apart from the editing. I think this would be a great addition to Receptor if someone or some people could work out that problem. Any opinions?

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:58 am

Plenty of opinions in this thread:

www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=147705

/Yoss

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:07 am

Ah!, That will teach me to go to page 2 on the forum, thanks!

Ah, not page 2, but another subforum on here.

PhilAiken · Post by **PhilAiken** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:16 am

To be clear....you can edit just fine in the detailed edit window, just not from the Gui editor - it freeaes Receptor.

It is very intriguing technology, and is fun to play. Tone-wise, it is not there yet, but as far as pedal behavior, sympathetic string resonance, and the fact that there is no velocity switching, it has elements that none of the other VSTi pianos have. It also has a MONO output button that actually makes it work well in MONO, my pet peeve about most sampled and digital pianos.
A/B ing with Ivory was a mismatch in regards to tone. Not in Ivory's league for realism there. But it is certainly fun to play in a different way than the sampled pianos are. It is also VERY tweakable.

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:37 am

Im still on the look out for a piano. I have one on my GPO but, I have the sustain pedal functioning as a legato for the strings, and it is applied globally on all sounds so i lose sus on piano. I do have the Nord Electro piano sounds, but it means another couple of cables and more button pushing and balancing during gigs. And as i will have Scarbee libraries in snapshot format (thanks to PhilA there) I thought this would be good as a low memory user. If it sounds as good as Electro in a band mix, it should be fine for my needs. I did just fire off an email to the Pianoteq guys asking if they could/would be of assistance to Receptor owners on the above matter of editing.

PhilAiken · Post by **PhilAiken** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:18 pm

I have a Nord Stage - not an electro, but I'm guessing that this might work out better in a band mix than that. Especially in mono. And yeah, having it in a snapshot is pretty sweet. I may have to buy it. Having to edit from the detailed edit window doesn't bother me a bit. The tone, while it's achilles heal, would probably be OK w/ a rock band.
I just wouldn't use it on a solo piano gig or piano-centric kinda gig.

One more possibly Receptor only quirk. It comes up with the reverb on, regardless of how you save a patch. I assigned reverb to my modwheel and an just toggling it off from there.

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:01 pm

Thank you very much for your detailed report regarding your use of
Pianoteq trial version with Receptor.

We are currently looking into this and will do our best to make you and
other receptor users happy.

Regards,
Niclas Fogwall
Sales & support
Pianoteq

Looks promising hopefully!

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:20 am

I'v been playing around with the demo, and at harder velocity levels there is a kind of tinny noise coming from it which does make it sound synthetic. In the midrange it is especially noticeable. If you play it softly it is not. Maybe you can reduce the frequency of it, but it seems to be a modeling thing. Im sure it will be improved upon though. It will be nice to have when your running a few sample libraries.

Bryan@MuseResearch · Post by **Bryan@MuseResearch** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:16 pm

Just so you guys know, we are talking with PianoTeq about making this an officially supported plug-in.

Stay tuned.

Groovology

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:34 am

That's great! Thanks Muse!

thesoundsmith · Post by **thesoundsmith** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:34 pm

While I don't need any more pianos right now, any ttime a modeled instrument becomes available it's worth seriously looking into - even if they don't sound exactly like the instrument they're modeling (current modeling technology is about at the level of the very early samplers, sort of the equivalent of the 12-bit Akais, or even the Mirage!) a modeled instrument can be tweaked into sounds that can be created NO other way, this makes them wonderful sonic sculting tools. Like early-adopter FM users (Chowning's book about FM properties didn't come out till well after the DX7 was history) modeling requires a fairly steep learning curve to get the details near correct, but just tweaking can produce some amazing results.

(Bottom line - if this can tortured into giving up some really unique sounds, I'd buy it for that, even though I didn't need another plain old piano.)

philosorhymes · Post by **philosorhymes** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:13 pm

Hi Soundsmith, what do you use for pianos on receptor?

thesoundsmith · Post by **thesoundsmith** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:39 pm

I'm using Colossus Steinway, it has real depth and warmth but can still punch. I tried JABB, GPO and EWQLSO Silver Steinway, but they don't even come close, IMHO. art Vista piano sounds good, but takes up too much of the resources (won't load, even with DFD, if I have much else open.) I do not have Ivory, but I think it would have the same issue, I like a LOT of sounds available, not just acoustic piano.

Hybernation · Post by **Hybernation** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:02 am

groovology wrote:Just so you guys know, we are talking with PianoTeq about making this an officially supported plug-in.

Stay tuned.

Groovology

Any update on this Bryan?

Bryan@MuseResearch · Post by **Bryan@MuseResearch** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:16 am

Not yet... desperately trying to finish up a bunch of plug-ins for NAMM, and we haven't had the opportunity to make this happen yet. We will get on it soon, however...

Cheers

G

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