Newbie question: How do I split up my drum track?

[IIRs]

Now. I have the Tracktion 1 freebie from back when...will there be any major differences?...

I don't think so... but then its a long time since I looked at T1!

The trick to understanding racks is to seperate the rack filter from the rack itself: racks are the modular environments where you connect up your plugs in the desired order and these exist independantly of tracks. Rack filters just handle the routing between tracks and racks...

eg: imagine a rack with 4 inputs and 4 outputs. This rack can have as many associated rack filters as you need, so you could use one rack filter to route a track to inputs 1 & 2 of the rack, while using another to route a totally different track to inputs 3 & 4 of the same rack.

A third rack filter could be used to bring outputs 1 & 2 of the rack back down a third track if required, and a fourth could route outputs 3 & 4 down yet another track.

Or you could use the same rack filter to send the audio to inputs 1 & 2 and also return the audio from outputs 1 & 2. In this case any audio on that track will be diverted to the rack, processed by whatever filters are inside it, then returned back to the same rack filter to continue its journey through any other filters on that track...

Hope that helps a bit..?

[Lunch Money]

I haven't a friggin' clue what's going on in that massive rack you posted. But when I use racks, it's not for anything complicated...



On the left are your 3 inputs (one midi and 2 audio -- ie. your track's stereo signal). I'm not using MIDI so nothing happens with that input. Then I connect BOTH cables (the plain ol' stereo signal) to Green Machine II, and also BOTH cables to a pretty normal little FX chain along the bottom.

So it's just a splitter... one signal path along the top, just as if it was a filter on a track, and another signal along the bottom, as if they were filters on a track.

The "MONEO" plug-in at the end is just a plug-in that allowed me to do some more signal processing, before sending the signal along. If it wasn't there, I'd just connect the left and right "cables" back to the output doohickeys on the right.

[MachFront]

Umm.

Well, as much as I truly appreciate it (I know how frustrating it can be dealing with stupid people), I don't think I can be helped.

Maybe if I understood at all how this stuff would/does work in a real studio environment.
I played bass for over a decade, but in all that time...I never understood anything of the "tech" side of it. I couldn't even grasp the concept of wiring together effects pedals and all that... I was lucky I knew how to plug in and turn on my amp.......

I just wish I could grasp the routing thing in general. Just in general.
Or...MIDI channels...or chaining or..or what the hell ever else...

If only someone would write a For Dummies, book....maybe...I say, maybe, I could begin to get a grip on it. Not a Computer Music For Dummies, although that would be nice too, but that would be too broad, but a Tracktion For Dummies. Hell, at least a Thompson Course Technology book on Tracktion would be nice.

[Lunch Money]

My above post is pretty much teh "for dummies" version. Dunno how to simplify it any more than that.

[MachFront]

Damn.
Wow.

How stupid am I, wanting/needing a For Dummies book for the worlds simplest, and easiest to understand sequencer?

[Beardedone]

Damn.
Wow.

How stupid am I, wanting/needing a For Dummies book for the worlds simplest, and easiest to understand sequencer?

Join the club. Patience is my only saving grace in this case. Try the SWA T2 tutorial. It's well worth the money.

[freeztar]

Damn.
Wow.

How stupid am I, wanting/needing a For Dummies book for the worlds simplest, and easiest to understand sequencer?

Join the club. Patience is my only saving grace in this case. Try the SWA T2 tutorial. It's well worth the money.

What's interesting is that when I try to use FLS, I am sitting there scratching my head and digging through menus. I pretty much had Tracktion figured out after about 30 minutes (never read the manual). eXT on the other hand had me pulling out my hair. I spent four hours with it and couldn't even get any sound to play.

So really, I think it just comes down to how your mind likes to work, and see things. That being said, don't give up on Tracktion. Once you hit that point of realization it all becomes clear and a big smile will adorn your face.

[Lunch Money]

Brains are funny things. I look at my example and it seems simple because I follow the signal flow from left to right, along those "cables." But some people will STILL just look at the screenshot and despite wishing it wasn't the case, their brain will rebel and FORCE them to look at the image all at once, in its entirety, and try to process it all in one shot. And when you look at the whole rack without following it left to right, it's just some funny icons and some funny lines.

What is easy for some people is difficult at an epic level for others, and that's not a reflection of "intelligence" but more often in the difference between people's brain processes.

It also doesn't hurt to build your own example, using something you actually care about. Looking at my example won't capture anybody's interest unless they're a guitarist. And if you can't think of anything that you'd need the rack for, then there's literally (not sarcastically) no good reason to learn it. I know Gordon wants to learn them for multi-out capability, so he's got little choice. But many people can record from now until the end of time without using racks.

Greg

[Beardedone]

Damn.
Wow.

How stupid am I, wanting/needing a For Dummies book for the worlds simplest, and easiest to understand sequencer?

Join the club. Patience is my only saving grace in this case. Try the SWA T2 tutorial. It's well worth the money.

What's interesting is that when I try to use FLS, I am sitting there scratching my head and digging through menus. I pretty much had Tracktion figured out after about 30 minutes (never read the manual). eXT on the other hand had me pulling out my hair. I spent four hours with it and couldn't even get any sound to play.

So really, I think it just comes down to how your mind likes to work, and see things. That being said, don't give up on Tracktion. Once you hit that point of realization it all becomes clear and a big smile will adorn your face.

It also depends on desire. When I started in Computer Music I first used Fruity and was hooked despite the difficulty. Granted I liked the user interface a great deal but it was the potential that got to me - any good intuituve host would have done it but Cubase certainly did not btw. Now with Tracktion being the fifth or sixth host I have paid for it's mor of a "show me" attitude. I tend to give up easily since I have alternatives that I know how to use. Fortunately Dan's Video has me turned on to Tracktion - it's very clearly laid out and will be a go to host in the future.

[pimenta]

Hi there ,

This walk through saved my life.. thanks!! Everything seem to be separated now (after spending a week trying to sort it out myself).. but when I hit record I get the following message:
"
recording is only possible when at leastone active input device is assigned to a track".

I am using DFHS through a TD20 through Delta 1010 (which MIDI is assigned to input 1 -track1).

What am I missing?

Tks in advance,

Pimenta

[IIRs]

what's a TD20?

[Beardedone]

what's a TD20?

It's one of those midi drum kits I think.

I do know we (my son and I) want one .

Cheers,
Gordon

[IIRs]

Oh, I see.

pimenta, can you play the drum sounds from the kit ok? If you can't, make sure the input icon is record enabled (click the R symbol).

If you can this might be a known bug: how many ASIO output pairs are you using? Are there any filters in the master section?

[pimenta]

Yes I can - when I play the drums I hear everything fine.
I will turn on he other computer and will be right back.

Note: Yep the Td20 is Roland's e-drum module.

Pim

[pimenta]

sorry for the disappearance. There is no R .. except for the very first track (coming from the delta 1010).

When I play I can hear everything .. and watching the levels everything seems to be separated.. so now how to "arm" the other tracks for recording? What do I assign as input .. I tried the Delta 1010 MIDI as well .. but could not ....

Pimenta