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HI, I just got into vst amp modeling. I recorded a dist pedal direct, put on Chimp, I'm loving it! Got my eye on this thread.
The only site for experimental amp sim freeware & MIDI FX: http://runbeerrun.blogspot.com
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCprNcvVH6aPTehLv8J5xokA -Youtube jams

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Mr. Tingle wrote:
Shane Sanders wrote: I'd love to see FA3 have some really tone-heavy clean Fender amp approaches.
+1 for a variety of mature clean sounding tones
ditto that one. Some clean Fender tones would be great like a Fender Twin, A Fender Super Reverb, A Fender Bassman. And from reading the posts looks like you'll be doing some serious work listening to and modeling amps. Yum Yum

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fep wrote:
Mr. Tingle wrote:
Shane Sanders wrote: I'd love to see FA3 have some really tone-heavy clean Fender amp approaches.
+1 for a variety of mature clean sounding tones
ditto that one. Some clean Fender tones would be great like a Fender Twin, A Fender Super Reverb, A Fender Bassman. And from reading the posts looks like you'll be doing some serious work listening to and modeling amps. Yum Yum
Might as well add in a Roland JC-120 to that.

-Scott

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rockstar_not wrote:
fep wrote:
Mr. Tingle wrote:
Shane Sanders wrote: I'd love to see FA3 have some really tone-heavy clean Fender amp approaches.
+1 for a variety of mature clean sounding tones
ditto that one. Some clean Fender tones would be great like a Fender Twin, A Fender Super Reverb, A Fender Bassman. And from reading the posts looks like you'll be doing some serious work listening to and modeling amps. Yum Yum
Might as well add in a Roland JC-120 to that.

-Scott
:oops: I hope that I can deliver that? Moving a bit slower on this one then I would like, but want v3 to be a new amp compared to FA2. Please bear with me :oops:

Fretted Synth

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looking forward, FA2 is amazing. much respect! cannnot waiit!!!! :hyper: :hyper:

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No worries. Your work is superb & we are extremely fortunate to have your products!! Can't wait for it!! Any rough ideas when? Don't wan to appear impatient, I really don't mind waiting for a very long time!

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Oooh, oooh, me too - when can we have it???? :hyper: :hyper: :hihi:

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my requests:

- more versatile noise gate, perhaps with lookahead-option...

- better dynamic response with High Gain(though i'm afraid this is a question of preamping :P ..)

- Noise reduction (?)

but this does mean, it is already a great plug
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...glad to be EXTended :D
...Always stay in tune...!

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RChler wrote:- more versatile noise gate, perhaps with lookahead-option...
uh, this let me think you didn't try his famous Crestagate(®) :P
*work in progress* :)

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My request would simply be a better mechanism for selecting presets. Currently I frequently have to wait to scroll through a drop menu to find a preset I want.

Thanks for all of your hard work on this product. It is a great benefit to many.

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The_Cresta wrote:
RChler wrote:- more versatile noise gate, perhaps with lookahead-option...
uh, this let me think you didn't try his famous Crestagate(®) :P
tell me about it :D
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...glad to be EXTended :D
...Always stay in tune...!

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RChler wrote:
The_Cresta wrote:
RChler wrote:- more versatile noise gate, perhaps with lookahead-option...
uh, this let me think you didn't try his famous Crestagate(®) :P
tell me about it :D
:) Cresta did a review of FA2, and mentioned the gate as being umm! not so well. I knew the gate needed attention but reading his review made it that much more of a prority. So I sent cresta a mail to let him know of a new gate to try, and he dubbed it the cresta gate (I sure hope that means he thought it works OK)?

If you look on my site I have a plugin on the Effects page named "GatePlus" that will become FA3's new gate? Let me know what you think of it?

Fretted Synth

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You asked, but it still kicks ass as is now. My wishlist:

1 - a thing called 'manual' into the package, eg. we had huge problems at the studio to make the autowah work properly on FA2 (=still haven't found a way).
2 - soft/hard knee option to the compressors, possibly attack/release knobs (and auto button for them ones who don't know how to use the compressor) and visible number what the ratio position represents, like 1:1.5, 1:2, 1:4, 1:8 etc. a digital display perhaps?
3 - Better feedback/sustain simulator
4 - To make the gate more versatile, add these options to the gate (eg. dbx 1074 and older version 274 have these options): Threshold (volume), Hold (time), Release (time), Expand (on/off), Ratio (slow/fast) + leds "open" "hold" "limit".
5 - put the things on different tabs/subpages so it wont look so crowded. and one tab for presetgroups and presets in general
6 - say 10 area graphic EQ or even full parametric one?
7 - possibility to choose the order of the pedals
8 - I wonder if it would be better to make the pedals not look like pedals, but rack-units instead and make the rack-area scrollable to save space?
9 - tuner (and possibly a tune tone with A, A# and Ab possibilities)
10 - tremolo with more visibility, took me a month to see it was there
11 - a hi-pass filter with adjustable frequency from 30-300hz = just a reminder that the bass player is not in the band because he has a van
12 - pingpong stereo-sweep
13 - pitchshifter/detuner
14 - co-operation with sir for ultimate guitar reverb? *drools*
15 - some "space-effects" like on korgs pandoras box
16 - the amount of distortion would be dependable on the amount of input signal like in the real amplifier (if you play lightly with medium distortion, the sound will/might not be distorted almost at all). this could be made via same kind of algorithm as compressors: treshold and ratio. but please put an auto option for the dumb ones again :)
17 - wet/dry mixer
18 - channel A and channel B that can be changed via midi on the fly (like real amps) or so that they could be possibly mixed in the output. like: a wet 35%; b wet 45%; dry 20%
19 - but you could also add some smooth bass booster (exciter/enhancer?) to compensate the #11
20 - phase inverter that could be added anywhere, because a lot of effects can cause a lot of phase-errors
21 - you could ask real guitarists to make some really cool presets for the plugin. This would just be a major bonus, nothing more. And a good wah-wah -preset for bass(?!?) would be appriciated
22 - If you can manage to make a sound with your plugin that makes the bass sound like this (see references), I will bow down to you
edit: 23 - the pin up girl

Visual references:

2: http://www.8thstreet.com/images/TC.elect-DTwo.jpg (the digital display idea)
3: http://www.line6.com/tonecore/drdistorto.html
4: http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM02 ... -large.jpg & http://www.extremeprosound.com/ebaypics/DBX/1074.jpg
5: http://www.amplitube.com/Picts/product/ ... T2Live.jpg
6: http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_eq700.htm & http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_fbq1 ... phiceq.htm
8: http://www.thomann.de/gb/line6_pod_xt_p ... preamp.htm
9: http://www.thomann.de/gb/boss_tu2.htm
13: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/781.html
15: http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=PX4
22: http://www.ahjteam.com/upload/Karnivool ... soundi.mp3 (I know these: Boss ODB-3 bassdistortion pedal, Ampeg Pro 2 amp and Ampeg 810E cabs, Warwick Corvette Standard bass with EMG pickups and possibly MT-2 or SYB-5 pedals)

PS: Do you need help with the visual side for some effects? Not that the looks is ugly or anything, grymmjack(?) did a splendid job :) I have done something on my free time like modelling of TC electrics' D-Two: http://www.ahjteam.com/upload/d2_anim.gif

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ahjteam wrote:
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1 - a thing called 'manual' into the package, eg. we had huge problems at the studio to make the autowah work properly on FA2 (=still haven't found a way).
2 - soft/hard knee option to the compressors, possibly attack/release knobs (and auto button for them ones who don't know how to use the compressor) and visible number what the ratio position represents, like 1:1.5, 1:2, 1:4, 1:8 etc. a digital display perhaps?
3 - Better feedback/sustain simulator

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5 - put the things on different tabs/subpages so it wont look so crowded. and one tab for presetgroups and presets in general
6 - say 10 area graphic EQ or even full parametric one?

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8 - I wonder if it would be better to make the pedals not look like pedals, but rack-units instead and make the rack-area scrollable to save space?

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10 - tremolo with more visibility, took me a month to see it was there
11 - a hi-pass filter with adjustable frequency from 30-300hz = just a reminder that the bass player is not in the band because he has a van
12 - pingpong stereo-sweep
13 - pitchshifter/detuner
14 - co-operation with sir for ultimate guitar reverb? *drools*
15 - some "space-effects" like on korgs pandoras box
17 - wet/dry mixer
18 - channel A and channel B that can be changed via midi on the fly (like real amps) or so that they could be possibly mixed in the output. like: a wet 35%; b wet 45%; dry 20%
19 - but you could also add some smooth bass booster (exciter/enhancer?) to compensate the #11
20 - phase inverter that could be added anywhere, because a lot of effects can cause a lot of phase-errors
21 - you could ask real guitarists to make some really cool presets for the plugin. This would just be a major bonus, nothing more. And a good wah-wah -preset for bass(?!?) would be appriciated
22 - If you can manage to make a sound with your plugin that makes the bass sound like this (see references), I will bow down to you

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Just for the record, I disagree with the points listed above for various reasons. One thing I really like about FA/FA2 was that you could immediately see every setting just by looking at the screen.

Additionally, having everything super-tweakable makes it harder to get your settings and get down to the business of playing guitar (how many amps have 10-band EQs, and how many have built-in pitch shifters?). While I think it would be nice to have a little more control over the order of effects, I really like how the plugin is currently laid out for the user.

Also, at some point you're adding featuers without making a serious increase in functionality: If there's a displeasure with the plugin b/c it's not tweakable enough, there are plenty of great-sounding plugins out there that can be strung together in chainer or some other such condition to get a more customizable pedalboard. FA2 is nice because it removes a lot of the work. Additionally, with every advanced feature you add, you increase the required CPU load for the plugin, and create more clutter on the screen (regardless of how you layout the plugin).

And in regards to #21, I happen to think the presets provided by not only FrettedSynth, but also the other guitar-playing preset contributors are pretty solid already.

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Moseph wrote:
ahjteam wrote:
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1 - a thing called 'manual' into the package, eg. we had huge problems at the studio to make the autowah work properly on FA2 (=still haven't found a way).
2 - soft/hard knee option to the compressors, possibly attack/release knobs (and auto button for them ones who don't know how to use the compressor) and visible number what the ratio position represents, like 1:1.5, 1:2, 1:4, 1:8 etc. a digital display perhaps?
3 - Better feedback/sustain simulator

...

5 - put the things on different tabs/subpages so it wont look so crowded. and one tab for presetgroups and presets in general
6 - say 10 area graphic EQ or even full parametric one?

...

8 - I wonder if it would be better to make the pedals not look like pedals, but rack-units instead and make the rack-area scrollable to save space?

...

10 - tremolo with more visibility, took me a month to see it was there
11 - a hi-pass filter with adjustable frequency from 30-300hz = just a reminder that the bass player is not in the band because he has a van
12 - pingpong stereo-sweep
13 - pitchshifter/detuner
14 - co-operation with sir for ultimate guitar reverb? *drools*
15 - some "space-effects" like on korgs pandoras box
17 - wet/dry mixer
18 - channel A and channel B that can be changed via midi on the fly (like real amps) or so that they could be possibly mixed in the output. like: a wet 35%; b wet 45%; dry 20%
19 - but you could also add some smooth bass booster (exciter/enhancer?) to compensate the #11
20 - phase inverter that could be added anywhere, because a lot of effects can cause a lot of phase-errors
21 - you could ask real guitarists to make some really cool presets for the plugin. This would just be a major bonus, nothing more. And a good wah-wah -preset for bass(?!?) would be appriciated
22 - If you can manage to make a sound with your plugin that makes the bass sound like this (see references), I will bow down to you

...
Just for the record, I disagree with the points listed above for various reasons. One thing I really like about FA/FA2 was that you could immediately see every setting just by looking at the screen.

Additionally, having everything super-tweakable makes it harder to get your settings and get down to the business of playing guitar (how many amps have 10-band EQs, and how many have built-in pitch shifters?). While I think it would be nice to have a little more control over the order of effects, I really like how the plugin is currently laid out for the user.

Also, at some point you're adding featuers without making a serious increase in functionality: If there's a displeasure with the plugin b/c it's not tweakable enough, there are plenty of great-sounding plugins out there that can be strung together in chainer or some other such condition to get a more customizable pedalboard. FA2 is nice because it removes a lot of the work. Additionally, with every advanced feature you add, you increase the required CPU load for the plugin, and create more clutter on the screen (regardless of how you layout the plugin).

And in regards to #21, I happen to think the presets provided by not only FrettedSynth, but also the other guitar-playing preset contributors are pretty solid already.
PS: But you did agree with #23? ;) Didn't FS say that he will make a few versions of the FA3, one with less tweaking possibilities for low-cpu use?

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