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tech44 · Post by **tech44** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:17 pm

To answer the original question Phatmatik is the closest IMO

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:46 pm

Lagrange wrote:+1 for Stylus RMX..

bduffy wrote:I couldn't stand Intakt, myself. I found it really hard to slice and control beats with the NI interface; switching between creating, muting and deleting slices is really awkward, and the window just isn't big enough.
Are you hatin' on Intakt? Just playin.. You actually reminded me that It does kinda suck.. I tryed it out a couple of years ago and got rid of it fast!

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Yeah, I'm hatin' it like it was OSR, yo!

SOunds like you had the same experience as me. I'm still waiting for the ultimate, easy-to-use REX-player-slicer, with a big, clear interface.

dreaddd · Post by **dreaddd** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:58 pm

i have a couple of friends that bought intakt themselves when released...buggy as hell and unstable like some obscure thirdworld country dictatorship
both they got rid of it
Peace

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:11 pm

dreaddd wrote:bduffy
Personally, I think there has never been a satisfactory beatslicer VST
i totally agree..i dont want a uber-exaustive featured monster only to use slices, i need simple straight reader...a cut down phatmatik pro (NOT phatmatik free, that s different) would fit perfectly to me...
a crossover between dr rex and phatmatik almost
Peace

Totally. I tried Phatmatik again when Izotope re-released it, but it too sucks in most of the same ways, IIRC.

This would be my favourite VST slicer (Propellerheads should just make a ReCycle VST!):

mw · Post by mw » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:28 pm

One of the great things I found about the Dr. Rex player was that the reason sequencer was at hand the same time as editing and sequencing. So I think it would be great if someone made a vsti Rex player/slicer that had a sequencer built in and that you could trigger the full sequence and it's individual parts by midi notes.

By the way Battery 3 does a great job playing Rex files in tempo w/ your host and will map the slices to individual notes/cells. The preview function, which runs at the same tempo as the host, is great as well.

Directwave will play and map slices to keys too, but there is a bug right now that the internal effects do not work on rex files...

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:29 pm

bduffy wrote:Propellerheads should just make a ReCycle VST!

When I pray at my bedside before I go to sleep, I always add a request for a recycle plugin!

Seriously this would be killer.. I guess some (propellerheads) would argue, Why not just buy reason.. Which leads us into an infinite cylindrical loop query with no esc button..

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bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:31 pm

Lagrange wrote:
bduffy wrote:Propellerheads should just make a ReCycle VST!
When I pray at my bedside before I go to sleep, I always add a request for a recycle plugin! HiHi Seriously this would be killer.. I guess some (propellerheads) would argue, Why not just buy reason.. Which leads us into an infinite cylindrical loop query with no esc button..

Indeed. While I love Dr Rex, the real impetus for a VSTi is: a) no !@%$# ReCycle; b) multiple output routing and c) a much, much larger GUI, please.

To name a few.

tech44 · Post by **tech44** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:34 pm

mw wrote:One of the great things I found about the Dr. Rex player was that the reason sequencer was at hand the same time as editing and sequencing. So I think it would be great if someone made a vsti Rex player/slicer that had a sequencer built in and that you could trigger the full sequence and it's individual parts by midi notes.

By the way Battery 3 does a great job playing Rex files in tempo w/ your host and will map the slices to individual notes/cells. The preview function, which runs at the same tempo as the host, is great as well.

Directwave will play and map slices to keys too, but there is a bug right now that the internal effects do not work on rex files...

If I understand you, Phatmatik does this. You have to export the midi file and import it in the sequencer though, but it take 2 seconds (you can usually save it to the desktop and drag it into the sequencer). With DR Rex you just hit the button and it sends it automatically, but it the same functionality.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:34 pm

mw wrote:One of the great things I found about the Dr. Rex player was that the reason sequencer was at hand the same time as editing and sequencing. So I think it would be great if someone made a vsti Rex player/slicer that had a sequencer built in and that you could trigger the full sequence and it's individual parts by midi notes.

By the way Battery 3 does a great job playing Rex files in tempo w/ your host and will map the slices to individual notes/cells. The preview function, which runs at the same tempo as the host, is great as well.

Directwave will play and map slices to keys too, but there is a bug right now that the internal effects do not work on rex files...

You know, I forgot Directwave does REX...but talk about a tiny mapping screen!

But I was not aware Battery 3 did REX, and mapped it to cells, and previewed at host tempo! I think I might have to check out that demo...

tech44 · Post by **tech44** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:39 pm

may I recommend the following threads:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... dio+slicer

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ght=slicer

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:41 pm

I was totally about to mention that! I hope modulr gets his done some day soon...

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:43 pm

One other MAJOR problem with some of these rex players is they don't do mirror stretching. Which means your gonna get some nasty envelope cutoffs (clicks) if you slow down the tempo in the host! AFAIK Recycle, DR Rex and FL's slicer are the only ones that do this. I use vsampler (which also loads REX files and Exports a MIDI file) but have to make sure I get the length setup properly 1st or it's click hell for the loop.

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loachm · Post by **loachm** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:48 pm

...when I use Kontakt, I have chosen Recycle for the option "use external editor" - so I have my perfect Recycle VSTi...

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:49 pm

Lagrange wrote:One other MAJOR problem with some of these rex players is they don't do mirror stretching. Which means your gonna get some nasty envelope cutoffs (clicks) if you slow down the tempo in the host! AFAIK Recycle, DR Rex and FL's slicer are the only ones that do this. I use vsampler (which also loads REX files and Exports a MIDI file) but have to make sure I get the length setup properly 1st or it's click hell for the loop.

"Mirror" stretching? You mean the stretching in ReCycle? Yeah, it's a very cool feature that everybody inexplicably forgets about.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:50 pm

loachm wrote:...when I use Kontakt, I have chosen Recycle for the option "use external editor" - so I have my perfect Recycle VSTi...

Holy shit, that's a good idea! And the edits you make in ReCycle are updated in Kontakt??

Dr Rex, VST?