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Notron User wrote:
Urs wrote:I actually havn't been serious here...
I'm just trying to imagine how Michael Kleps would have responded... :lol:
hahaha, true! :lol:

On the other hand, he's one of the nicest chaps one can meet. We used to have loooong phone calls about plugin format/API problems... he even sent me a new telephone once...

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Urs wrote:
nagal wrote:congrats on the quiting smoking! I have been there and know its a totally amazing feat to try!
Thanks :) - It's been quite, uhm, strange. After 5 months I'm still struggling a bit. But hey, almost no hang overs from beer anymore!!!
The secret is to drink enough so that you're drunk when you wake up.

Of course I'm forgetting about the wernicke-korsakoff syndrome. But that makes me forget a lot of things...

So don't forget your B-Vitamins. In Europe you must have B-vitamin enhanced pilseners, right?
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Urs wrote:
nagal wrote:congrats on the quiting smoking! I have been there and know its a totally amazing feat to try!
Thanks :) - It's been quite, uhm, strange. After 5 months I'm still struggling a bit. But hey, almost no hang overs from beer anymore!!!
Urs I quit for New Years and it's been a little bit of a ride. Sometimes I get the urge to run outside and smoke when I'm feeling tense, but for the most part I don't think about it anymore.

On Sunday it will have been 6 months for me!

Great job man, keep up the good work.
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Urs wrote:
nagal wrote:congrats on the quiting smoking! I have been there and know its a totally amazing feat to try!
Thanks :) - It's been quite, uhm, strange. After 5 months I'm still struggling a bit. But hey, almost no hang overs from beer anymore!!!
I quit five years ago, it was the hardest thing I've done in a long, long time. Congrats. It took me about a year to get myself to the point of being able to finally stop, now I just have to tell myself to never start again.

I also agree, the small companies are the ones that are usually ahead of the curve.
..::*Jack of all DAWs* brianbotkiller.com : OBEDIA.com::..

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URS, do you think it would be viable to maybe just do a 63bit version and give people a discount instead, say $1 off or something?

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Tarekith wrote:URS, do you think it would be viable to maybe just do a 63bit version and give people a discount instead, say $1 off or something?
:?: :!: :?:

Format updates have always been free, havn't they 8)

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Tarekith wrote:URS, do you think it would be viable to maybe just do a 63bit version and give people a discount instead, say $1 off or something?
I thought there was 8 bits in a dollar.... <ducks> :P
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You guys who quit smoking have no sense of humor, I swear. :)

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Tarekith wrote:You guys who quit smoking have no sense of humor, I swear. :)
Whaddayamean? :x :x :x

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Urs wrote:u-he can survive roughly one year without sales
this makes me happy :)

by the end of the year lets see if we can make it so it can survive 10 ;)

Subz

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I don't think that 64 bit is very popular yet. I just updated my computer with Core 2 duo parts and I installed 32 bit Vista, just about to install Zebra again!

P.S. I haven't quitted smoking but the "no smoking inside bars" came to effect here a month ago. I feel like a criminal now!

P.P.S. The C2D update was quite cheap E4300 costs 110€ and it clocks to E6600 speed quite easily, and 2GB of 850Mhz RAM was 100€. I am happy as a clam, got it to be very quiet too with stock fan and all. Also got a 20" wide TFT for 250€.

- J

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Urs wrote: Vst Win (<- only constant)
:!: :!: :!:

And, no matter what one thinks of Steinberg, this should be applauded.
I can still run the very first VST plugins on the very latest Windows machines without any problems (ok, haven't bothered with Vista yet). Try to explain the advances of that (and anything else regarding backwards compatibility) to Emapple...
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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Apple have always traditionally sacrificed backwards compatibility for forward technological progress - they are the first to drop legacy hardware formats in favour of newer better technologies.

Where you stand on the line depends on whether you think this is a bad thing, or a a necessary cost of change - you can't satifsy everybody all of the time, and I think the case with Apple is that sometimes you benefit from their decisions and sometimes you get a bit bitten by them.

Apple do tend to regards themselves as a "pay to play" company - the solution is often to buy new product, and if you want to really maximise what your money can buy you, Apple may not be the best solution.

The fact that VST has had so much longevity might be regarded as a mixed blessing - yes, the stability is welcome, but the forward progress has been slow, and if the time comes that the old format needs a new update, the change will be more drastic because of the long stability.

The thing is, without becoming an Apple envangelist (because I'm really not), the picture over on the Apple side of the fence looks more promising too me - the architecture is more recent and built for the future to allow decent technological progress, whereas the Windows side looks a lot more stagnant and long-in-the-tooth to me.

Microsoft as an OS company don't seem to regard professional audio people as important enough to build in many audio features that OSX has, whereas Apple really are building these things into the OS.

But regardless of your platforms of choice, time and technology moves on, and unless the software companies can keep up, sooner or later *everyone* will have to lose old legacy applications they like, unless they keep old systems running. In many ways, I miss my old Atari ST, but despite keeping the machine and monitor up in the roof, I haven't rigged it up or turned it on in years - nostalgia aside, there is no reason to. And many of the applications I used to run on that I'm still using today (eg: Logic).

Change is always painful, but it can also bring benefits. Sometimes you just have to let go... ;)
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beej wrote: The fact that VST has had so much longevity might be regarded as a mixed blessing - yes, the stability is welcome, but the forward progress has been slow,
So, has the "forward process" seen any speeding up with the appearance of AUs? The answer is: No, not at all.
Microsoft as an OS company don't seem to regard professional audio people as important enough to build in many audio features that OSX has, whereas Apple really are building these things into the OS.
While I may agree on that, the fastest latencies are still possible with properly ASIO driven cards under Windows. So, where's the advances of that build in technology for me, as a user?
Change is always painful, but it can also bring benefits. Sometimes you just have to let go... ;)
I'm sorry, but that's exactly what Apple is using as an "excuse". So far, none of that stuff has even remotely changed my mind. All of Apples moves have been bad for me as a user.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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If only I had bought shares in Kool Aid twenty years ago ...

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