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symplectiq · Post by **symplectiq** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:31 pm

Can someone give me good sax and flute midi to test my patches? I'm so shit at playing.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:16 pm

Can't help out with that yet, but Howard has contributed some snippets for other patches:

http://www.zebrasynth.com/index.php?item=listen

I like the All Strings+ quite a lot

symplectiq · Post by **symplectiq** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:50 pm

please don't laugh http://www.sendspace.com/file/o3om8h

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:53 pm

chaoticz wrote:please don't laugh http://www.sendspace.com/file/o3om8h

Why laugh? - You got the spirit!

symplectiq · Post by **symplectiq** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:27 pm

Urs wrote: Why laugh? - You got the spirit!

I know patches are shit but I'm in the right direction.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:20 pm

Ah... wait... I got you wrong... I thought you were looking for examples about how these kind of patches are played... I have overlooked that it was *about* the patches...

Well, I think they're pretty much in the right direction. After another listen, the flute seems to be a bit sharp in the heights. Other than that these are probably closer to the real deal than anything I came up with so far

In respect of Midi files, I think the problem is the use of controlers like Wheels, Velocity and Aftertouch. These patches beg to be played with a lot of expression, but there's no standard as to which controler is mapped to which parameter... thus it may be necessary to play stuff individually for each patch...

Urs

symplectiq · Post by **symplectiq** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:50 am

Urs wrote:Ah... wait... I got you wrong... I thought you were looking for examples about how these kind of patches are played... I have overlooked that it was *about* the patches...

Well, I think they're pretty much in the right direction. After another listen, the flute seems to be a bit sharp in the heights. Other than that these are probably closer to the real deal than anything I came up with so far

In respect of Midi files, I think the problem is the use of controlers like Wheels, Velocity and Aftertouch. These patches beg to be played with a lot of expression, but there's no standard as to which controler is mapped to which parameter... thus it may be necessary to play stuff individually for each patch...

Urs

Yes it's about how they sound not how I played them. That's why I need proper midi to see where to go tweaking. And you're right about the flute. It always want to breakout in heights. Can't seem to find a way to settle it yet.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:16 pm

chaoticz wrote:It always want to breakout in heights. Can't seem to find a way to settle it yet.

Pretty good attempt, but you have some "chorussy" modulation in your sound that needs to be smoother (IMHO). If you are modulating the waveset, try a bit less of that AND a higher oscillator resolution (7.00 should do fine)...Or is it a Comb filter, with detune against an oscillator fed into it?

symplectiq · Post by **symplectiq** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:18 pm

Howard wrote:
chaoticz wrote:It always want to breakout in heights. Can't seem to find a way to settle it yet.
Pretty good attempt, but you have some "chorussy" modulation in your sound that needs to be smoother (IMHO). If you are modulating the waveset, try a bit less of that AND a higher oscillator resolution (7.00 should do fine)...Or is it a Comb filter, with detune against an oscillator fed into it?

It's actually a chorus on insert

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:06 pm

chaoticz wrote:It's actually a chorus on insert

symplectiq · Post by **symplectiq** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:09 pm

http://www.sendspace.com/file/le1urk a bit polished sax

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:28 pm

chaoticz wrote:http://www.sendspace.com/file/le1urk a bit polished sax

That's pretty darn good!

The attack is marvellous, but it also stands in the way for legato play. Maybe switch to legato mode, or use the ModWheel to add softer attack? Hmmm... havn't listened to (a real) sax in a while...

Urs

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:44 pm

chaoticz wrote:http://www.sendspace.com/file/le1urk a bit polished sax

Impressive sound. The "puffy" attack is much more like a brass instrument - so it's definitely a SAXOR

, not a saxophone.

symplectiq · Post by **symplectiq** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:53 am

Howard wrote:
chaoticz wrote:http://www.sendspace.com/file/le1urk a bit polished sax
Impressive sound. The "puffy" attack is much more like a brass instrument - so it's definitely a SAXOR , not a saxophone.

The saxor indeed. For copying or dare I say modeling (lol) I need the real sax and probably the real player. I'm just fooling around.

symplectiq · Post by **symplectiq** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:07 pm

http://www.sendspace.com/delete/3yy9mw/2bg4k

Flute.

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