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pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:26 am

Jace-BeOS wrote:i'm assuming the next release will also mean a new release for CMusic?

Why? CMusic is commissioned by Computer Music magazine independently of Jo's release cycle. If you want to know whether there'll be another version, you'd be better off asking over on the Computer Music forums. Unless Jo wants to break the news first (which might be bad etiquet).

DaveL60 · Post by **DaveL60** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:28 pm

pljones wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:i'm assuming the next release will also mean a new release for CMusic?

Why? CMusic is commissioned by Computer Music magazine independently of Jo's release cycle. If you want to know whether there'll be another version, you'd be better off asking over on the Computer Music forums. Unless Jo wants to break the news first (which might be bad etiquet).

Not that asking there will help much, since I've never seen anything from CM saying ahead of time what might be coming in that arena.

OTOH (and at the risk of sounding disloyal

), the latest mag has Samplitude 9 SE on the disk, which I'm looking forward to trying out once the play I'm in ends its run.

DaveL

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:31 pm

It's Saturday

Any news Jo?

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:22 pm

D-Fusion wrote:It's Saturday
Any news Jo?

Yes... beta D won't make it today, i'm sorry.

The 3 main reasons are:

1) i've been quite ill this week, terrible cold, not over yet. This has slowed down things by at least a couple of days.

2) i admit that i'm not always the best time-planner, especially when 3 big jobs need to be combined: mu.lab development, getting my house a bit livable, and last but not least my main job which makes my main income.
oh, and then besides this, one has to do the basic things of life (eat, sleep, cleanup, do admin, ...) and have a good party/concert here and/or there

3) i've been doing some further thinking work on the conceptual / strategical level. and i want beta D to be a big enough step forward (towards pre-release).

Now i'm aware of the fact that beta C has expired.

But beta C is not an official working version yet, so in fact that shouldn't hurt.

LUNA pr 8.4 is still the official stable public version, and is still available from http://www.mutools.com/downloads.html

Maybe the fact that you temporarily can't use the mu.lab beta anymore (except if you tweak your system clock), might give you the opportunity to take some distance from it, and maybe you also have broader thoughts about this project. if so, always feel free to chat about.

Anyway, i'm doing the best i can to get the next mu.lab ready a.s.a.p. but also a.interesting.a.p.

MU.LAB beta D will definitely be a nice step forward.

The previous versions only featured the in-depth editing of the MUX and MuSynth, which is nice when you really want to do modular synth programming.

But that's far from playing / jamming / composing music.

I was not surprised when some users kind of complained about the difficulty of these modular monsters.

One of the next main goals now is to bring all this new modular technology also in a very easy format.

So that you can plug in a musynth, browse for a sound, tweak a handful of effectful knobs, jump to another sound, check that out and so on...

It's about musical usability

Talk to you soon.

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:27 pm

DaveL60 wrote:
pljones wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:i'm assuming the next release will also mean a new release for CMusic?

Why? CMusic is commissioned by Computer Music magazine independently of Jo's release cycle. If you want to know whether there'll be another version, you'd be better off asking over on the Computer Music forums. Unless Jo wants to break the news first (which might be bad etiquet).
Not that asking there will help much, since I've never seen anything from CM saying ahead of time what might be coming in that arena.

OTOH (and at the risk of sounding disloyal ), the latest mag has Samplitude 9 SE on the disk, which I'm looking forward to trying out once the play I'm in ends its run.

Hey man, if it's good software it's good software, no prob

Hope i'll find the time to check it out too

Concerning CMusic: i will contact CM once mu.lab 1.0 is released.

And i take it as a high priority to release it before the end of the year!

DaveL60 · Post by **DaveL60** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:59 pm

muzycian wrote:
DaveL60 wrote:OTOH (and at the risk of sounding disloyal ), the latest mag has Samplitude 9 SE on the disk, which I'm looking forward to trying out once the play I'm in ends its run.
Hey man, if it's good software it's good software, no prob

Hope i'll find the time to check it out too

Thanks, Jo. I figured you'd see it that way.

I'd just gotten started w/the Samplitude v8 SE they had last November when I got involved w/the play, and now they've got v9.

In the theme of using the things I've spent $s for, and since one of my projects was inspired by the bass synth they added to CM Studio recently, I've decided that all the sw for that song is going to be from CM disks (although I'm ruling out the disk from the freeware special as cheating

). That actually offers excellent options since they've given away versions of Samplitude and Podium (and, I think, EnergyXT) just in the past year!

Meanwhile, I am looking forward to trying out Mu.Lab.

I would have volunteered to beta test, 'cuz I love doing that, but I just don't have the time.

DaveL

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D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:35 pm

That is ok Jo

Get well and take your time

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:19 pm

Bonteburg wrote:I've given up on the hanging notes, I have a sneaking suspicion that it is my keyboard (USB, 2002 build.) . It seems to be a chord (ie data load ) problem.
However: I'll try and get my hands on a MIDI cable to test it with 'proper' MIDI

Marco,

I found something

Isn't it that the hanging notes come when you play very *short* notes / chords?

Please be sure to check out MU.LAB beta D once it's there (you'll get email then) and verify if the hanging notes issue has gone.

I also PM-ed you this.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:00 pm

Hi Jo

Happy to see that you are on your feet again after you have been sick.

Do you now when Beta D will be ready?
I also have some FR's for MuLab

1. Dual/multi core support.
2. Step recording from keyboard
3. A Cross instead of that pencil

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:43 am

D-Fusion wrote:Hi Jo
Happy to see that you are on your feet again after you have been sick.

Do you now when Beta D will be ready?

Ok, lets put another date on it: coming friday 23th.

I also have some FR's for MuLab

1. Dual/multi core support.

Not yet, sorry.

(though MU.LAB is built with multi core support in mind, so it should come thru one day, but it's not planned on the 1.0 release)

2. Step recording from keyboard

Not yet. I must draw a line what's in version 1.0 and what comes later. This is for later. But it *will* come thru.

3. A Cross instead of that pencil

Huh? What do you mean?

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:22 pm

With the Pencil i meant the pencil arrow

I find it har to add notes with the mouse in the pianoroll with that pencil.

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:45 pm

D-Fusion wrote:With the Pencil i meant the pencil arrow
I find it har to add notes with the mouse in the pianoroll with that pencil.

Why is that?

Just click with the pencil to add a note.

It's not that hard, is it?

Maybe i'm missing your point.

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:58 pm

D-Fusion, by the way: does Firebird still doesn't work in beta C on your system?

It works fine here. (if no debugger in the background, otherwise it won't work)

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:08 pm

muzycian wrote:D-Fusion, by the way: does Firebird still doesn't work in beta C on your system?

It works fine here. (if no debugger in the background, otherwise it won't work)

Hi

Nevermind the Pencil request

I have'nt tried the new Firebird+ 1.9 in Mulab C yet since it has expired.
Maybe you could extend the date to next friday for Beta C so i can test it since i am not to happy about playing with my computer date

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:48 pm

D-Fusion wrote:
muzycian wrote:D-Fusion, by the way: does Firebird still doesn't work in beta C on your system?

It works fine here. (if no debugger in the background, otherwise it won't work)
Hi
Nevermind the Pencil request
I have'nt tried the new Firebird+ 1.9 in Mulab C yet since it has expired.
Maybe you could extend the date to next friday for Beta C so i can test it since i am not to happy about playing with my computer date

Lets test firebird in beta D then.

I'll make sure beta D is available next friday. Promise.

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