fast plugin switching

[mat123]

Hi folks,

On stage I basically use one upright, one grand, one organ (B4II) and rhodes. Each time I switch back to one of the pianos it takes quite some time for loading.

I am thinking about a way to do this faster. My receptor (pro) can hold all samples at the same time in a multi patch. So, instead of switching the plugins, it should be technically possible to load all of them once and simply activate the one I need while deactivating the others.

Is there an easy way to do this quickly on stage?

Thanks...

[gizmostatic]

I think this is the textbook intended purpose of a 'snapshot'

create a new snapshot in a bank, load up all your instruments/sounds, assign each receptor channel to the same midi channel, say, 1, mute all instruments and save the snapshot in a snapshot bank (create a new one for your live gig .. whatever you want)

now edit that program by unmuting 1 channel and saving as a different program in the bank - e.g. unmute your upright channel and call the program 'upright'

continue with the other 3, and you can fast-switch between the 4 programs without any load time.

Hi folks,

On stage I basically use one upright, one grand, one organ (B4II) and rhodes. Each time I switch back to one of the pianos it takes quite some time for loading.

I am thinking about a way to do this faster. My receptor (pro) can hold all samples at the same time in a multi patch. So, instead of switching the plugins, it should be technically possible to load all of them once and simply activate the one I need while deactivating the others.

Is there an easy way to do this quickly on stage?

Thanks...

[JayVee]

OR

I can't use Snapshots in my case, so you could try this:

Load each of those into 1 Multi, using a separate track for each instrument:

Upright on track 1 MIDI 1
Grand on track 2 MIDI 2
B4ii on track 3 MIDI 3
Rhodes on track 4 MIDI 4

Switch the MIDI send from your Controller/main keyboard between MIDI channels, instead of loading & re-loading.

[mat123]

I think this is the textbook intended purpose of a 'snapshot'

create a new snapshot in a bank, load up all your instruments/sounds, assign each receptor channel to the same midi channel, say, 1, mute all instruments and save the snapshot in a snapshot bank (create a new one for your live gig .. whatever you want)

now edit that program by unmuting 1 channel and saving as a different program in the bank - e.g. unmute your upright channel and call the program 'upright'

continue with the other 3, and you can fast-switch between the 4 programs without any load time.

in the receptor manual, I found the word "snapshot" only once: (page 28) "You can think of Multi patches as 'snapshots' of your entire Receptor mixer"

So I assume you are referring to multi patches.

I tried this, but, whenever I'm switching between two multies, all (A-L-L) plugins are re-loaded even though they are already present, assigned to the same receptor channels.

Hmmm.....

[Ben [KVR]]

The manual only covers up to v1.2. Download the latest release notes, which is essentially a manual addendum. Snapshots were added in v1.5.

http://www.museresearch.com/updates.php

or directly

http://www.museresearch.com/downloads/d ... _Notes.pdf

[Rick@MuseResearch]

I have posted this before and I know it works for some users. Maybe this will be helpful.

Here's how I will do program changes using Komplete 5 as an example. This requires you can send a program change in Omni mode, (all 16 midi channels).

1. Open the Receptor SETUP MIDI pane, select "Ignore program changes and select Multis".
2. Select Use Channel 16
3. Select "Route all other channels to source plugin".
4. Create a Receptor Snapshot bank.
5. On Receptor mixer CH1 load Kontakt 3, create a Kontakt Multi not a Receptor Multi with 3 patches. Now save this as a Receptor Kontakt SOURCE patch.
6. Load B4 II on Receptor mixer CH2 set this to MIDI CH1.
7. Load Acoustic Piano on Receptor mixer CH3 set this to MIDI CH1.
8. For Snapshot patches 1 through 3 Kontakt 3 will play, mute B4 II and bypass Acoustic Piano. Here's an important note: A plugin that is muted will still see a program change and a bypassed plugin will not see a program change. Also Akoustik Piano does not respond to program changes so this is useful for this example.
9. For Snapshot 4 mute Kontakt 3, un-mute B4 II and leave Akoustik piano bypassed.
10. For Snapshot 5 leave Kontakt 3 muted, mute B4 II and un-bypass Akoustick Piano.
11. Send Program changes 1 through 5 as an Omni channel.

Result:
(A) Program changes 1 through 3 sound pre loaded Kontakt 3 samples, zero load time.
(B) Program change 4 sounds B4 II patch 4.
(C) Program Change 5 sounds just Akoustic Piano.
(D) All this happens immediately.
(E) All plugins play on MIDI ch1.

Rick

[tisd2981]

Do the snapshots have to be on channel 1? Or could you do different midi channels within a snaphot patch? I would like to set up snapshots for two different keyboards each with a different midi channel. That way if I need one keyboard to play one instance for that channel assigned to that keyboard and another instance of anotherchannel for the other keyboard assigned to a different channel.

[JayVee]

O. M. G.

Use the method I've described in my previous post above.
For 4 patches, you guys really know how to complicate things.

[Rick@MuseResearch]

Snapshots could only be set to a single MIDI channel. The other 15 MIDI channels would to the plugin.

Do the snapshots have to be on channel 1? Or could you do different midi channels within a snaphot patch? I would like to set up snapshots for two different keyboards each with a different midi channel. That way if I need one keyboard to play one instance for that channel assigned to that keyboard and another instance of anotherchannel for the other keyboard assigned to a different channel.

[PhilAiken]

Snapshots could only be set to a single MIDI channel. The other 15 MIDI channels would to the plugin.

Do the snapshots have to be on channel 1? Or could you do different midi channels within a snaphot patch? I would like to set up snapshots for two different keyboards each with a different midi channel. That way if I need one keyboard to play one instance for that channel assigned to that keyboard and another instance of anotherchannel for the other keyboard assigned to a different channel.

Wait- Are you asking if you can control 2 different instruments within a snapshot on 2 different midi channels? If so, yes.
Or are you asking if you can use 2 different midi channels to control the SELECTION of snapshots, which is what I think Rick addresses here?

[tisd2981]

The first part is correct. I only need to play multiple channels at a each snapshot preset.What I want to do is if I can have each snapshot preset with a different midi channel. For example, if I could play B4II with one mixer channel with midi channel 1 and play Akoustik Paino on another mixer channel on midi channel 2. Your previous snapshot example only shows everything playing on channel 1. Mixing midi channels assignments for different keyboards and bypassing the rest would be helpful for me.

[mat123]

@JV: thanks, your approach seems handleable, although I don't like the idea to mess around with the MIDI settings of my keaboard on stage.

@MaxReverb: whow! I don't know if I'll manage this. You know, being a mac user, I always expect "there is no step three"

@muse development: what about implementing multi-patch switching, so that only NEW plugins are loaded...

[Rick@MuseResearch]

A multi-patch switching feature has been requested by many users. Me included.

@JV: thanks, your approach seems handleable, although I don't like the idea to mess around with the MIDI settings of my keaboard on stage.

@MaxReverb: whow! I don't know if I'll manage this. You know, being a mac user, I always expect "there is no step three"

@muse development: what about implementing multi-patch switching, so that only NEW plugins are loaded...

[Norman Schmidt]

Thanks MaxReverb for posting your instructions. At first the steps look complicated and take a while to get working, but I finally did it!

I use a Nord Stage that doesn't have an "Omni mode" but can send program changes
on two midi channels (default 14 and 15) simultaneously, so your method works fine.

Does anyone know of keyboard controllers that send 16 channels at the same time? Maybe the
M-Audio Axiom series?

Thanks.

[richwhite9]

Does anyone know of keyboard controllers that send 16 channels at the same time? Maybe the
M-Audio Axiom series?

Thanks.

Roland/Edirol PCR series has Omni mode