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MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:44 pm

MU.LAB 2 Test D is available for download at:

OSX: http://www.mutools.com/mulab/test20/mul ... -d-osx.zip
WIN: http://www.mutools.com/mulab/test20/mul ... -d-win.zip

What's new in this version: http://www.mutools.com/mulab/test20/changes.txt

Note that this package does not yet include the final graphics and documentation. That's for the MU.LAB 2 PreRelease.

If you have a MU.LAB Unlimited User Key, you can unlock this MU.LAB Test version via the main Edit menu -> Enter Unlimited User Key.

Hope you'll find time to thoroughly test this new version, and report any issues here in this forum topic.

Cheers!

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:42 am

Sorry to see the loss of the Luna splash...

The new windows look nice! I like the dock.

It would be nice if the VST windows could work like the built-in effect window: programs listed down the side, process, options and load/save across the top.

"* New: Merge Sequence Parts function"
-- Not clear where this lives... Couldn't find it on the sequence menu, the part menu or the new sequence pool.

Bonteburg · Post by **Bonteburg** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:03 am

I had a hard time finding it -it's in the composition menu which is perhaps a little bizarre ...

I CAN see why it's there because it affects multiple sequences at the same time and so it's technically on the composition level.

ApBTranCer · Post by **ApBTranCer** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:33 pm

The new window system looks great! I really like it

I dragged the window above the top mac menu bar, and i cant figure out how to bring it back down. When i restart mulab, the window is in the same place, like it should, but im stuck lol. Maybe the finder's menu bar could somehow block the window from passing.

pljones had a great idea about putting vst patches along the side, but id rather just see them in a drop-down menu along the top. Although, the way you have the VST window now works just fine. Still hoping for dry/wet knobs up there as well, but thats not important

The dock is awesome

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:18 pm

pljones wrote:Sorry to see the loss of the Luna splash...

So you liked the original Luna splash more?

"* New: Merge Sequence Parts function"
-- Not clear where this lives... Couldn't find it on the sequence menu, the part menu or the new sequence pool.

It's a composition function, so right-click the composition background.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:21 pm

Bonteburg wrote:I had a hard time finding it -it's in the composition menu which is perhaps a little bizarre ...

I CAN see why it's there because it affects multiple sequences at the same time and so it's technically on the composition level.

Oops, didn't read this yet.

Yes, indeed, that's exactly the reason.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:23 pm

ApBTranCer wrote:I dragged the window above the top mac menu bar, and i cant figure out how to bring it back down. When i restart mulab, the window is in the same place, like it should, but im stuck lol. Maybe the finder's menu bar could somehow block the window from passing.

Ah, taken note.

Calum · Post by **Calum** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:57 pm

ApBTranCer wrote:The new window system looks great! I really like it

I dragged the window above the top mac menu bar, and i cant figure out how to bring it back down. When i restart mulab, the window is in the same place, like it should, but im stuck lol. Maybe the finder's menu bar could somehow block the window from passing.

Quick fix for this:

Go to System Preferences/Display and change the monitor resolution to something like 1024 x 768 and then back to the native resolution - window bar should appear again.

fst · Post by **fst** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:48 pm

Found a really minor glitch, but hopefully worth reporting

OSX 10.5.4 (Intel) - MULAB 2 Test D - KraftGroove.MuSession

- Double click a part to open editor
- In the rack, click the arrow to open a Musynth editor window
- Close the Musynth editor window
- Note how neither Esc, Tab, or Return key commands work for returning to the Composer window.

Like i said, really minor

Props to Jo BTW - first opportunity i've had to spend detailed time with MuLab, and it is indeed a more than worthy successor to the mighty Muzys

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:14 pm

mutools wrote:
pljones wrote:Sorry to see the loss of the Luna splash...
So you liked the original Luna splash more?

Yeah, this one makes me think "dance music"; the Luna one is more generally artistic, IMO.

mutools wrote:It's a composition function, so right-click the composition background.

OK... But it applies to multiple sequences that could be used in multiple compositions in the one MuSession, surely? So arguably there should be a MuSession menu where it should live

Can it live on the sequence menu too..?

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:25 am

pljones wrote:
mutools wrote:
pljones wrote:Sorry to see the loss of the Luna splash...
So you liked the original Luna splash more?
Yeah, this one makes me think "dance music"; the Luna one is more generally artistic, IMO.
mutools wrote:It's a composition function, so right-click the composition background.
OK... But it applies to multiple sequences that could be used in multiple compositions in the one MuSession, surely? So arguably there should be a MuSession menu where it should live Can it live on the sequence menu too..?

No, because it doesn't affect those sequences, it only affects that composition

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:14 am

mutools wrote:No, because it doesn't affect those sequences, it only affects that composition

It's doing a couple of things:
1) In the session, it creates a new sequence by merging the sequences from the selected parts.
2) In the composition, it replaces the selected Parts with a single part containing the merged sequence

Certainly (2) puts it on the Composition menu. I'll get used to it

.

One tiny bug: it doesn't sequentially number "Merged" sequences - they all get called "Merged". (At least, when created in separate Compositions in the same session.)

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:41 am

pljones wrote:
mutools wrote:No, because it doesn't affect those sequences, it only affects that composition
It's doing a couple of things:
1) In the session, it creates a new sequence by merging the sequences from the selected parts.
2) In the composition, it replaces the selected Parts with a single part containing the merged sequence

Certainly (2) puts it on the Composition menu. I'll get used to it

I agree that from the user perspective it may be a bit weird at first sight.

And for that reason, i'll further investigate this aspect. [edit]wrt future versions[/edit]

One tiny bug: it doesn't sequentially number "Merged" sequences - they all get called "Merged". (At least, when created in separate Compositions in the same session.)

Thanks!

Will be fixed.

Bonteburg · Post by **Bonteburg** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:11 pm

I'm really really digging the new GUIs for the synths and the dock thingie.

Miss the backdrops for the FX though.

Oh and the key command for "save as" ... tight!

Bonteburg · Post by **Bonteburg** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:34 pm

Hate to bother you about Apple GUI niggles again but I managed to slip the MU.LAB main window under the OSX upper bar so I can't retrieve it. This shouldn't be possible.
edit: It gets worse - looks like I have to install MU.LAB again to make the problem go away.