Axiously awaiting upgrade info.....
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- KVRist
- 411 posts since 25 Apr, 2007 from Northern CA
I am hoping to see an option to just buy a new HD with the Muse software already configured and tweaked for the new mobo and cpu, and I can upgrade the components on my own. This should only cost $100 or so (about $50 for a 250 gig, and $50 handling fee) to buy the HD from Muse, and then another $250 or so for me to upgrade my own components. The total cost for this would be a mere $350 (not including my time for swapping out the components). Plus, I could sell the older parts for a few bucks...or keep as a backup.
Which raises the question of who gets the older parts if Muse does the upgrade?
However, you'll probably see prices like $599.00 for those that just purchased, and $1099.00 for Rev C owners...older hardware might be given a reprieve for $1699.00. Which I think is astronomical of course, but would be in line with what they have charged in the past.
Just a guess though
JR
Which raises the question of who gets the older parts if Muse does the upgrade?
However, you'll probably see prices like $599.00 for those that just purchased, and $1099.00 for Rev C owners...older hardware might be given a reprieve for $1699.00. Which I think is astronomical of course, but would be in line with what they have charged in the past.
Just a guess though
JR
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Bryan@MuseResearch Bryan@MuseResearch https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9067
- MUSEician
- 618 posts since 18 Sep, 2003 from Silicon Valley
Hi therejohnrule wrote:I am hoping to see an option to just buy a new HD with the Muse software already configured and tweaked for the new mobo and cpu, and I can upgrade the components on my own. This should only cost $100 or so (about $50 for a 250 gig, and $50 handling fee) to buy the HD from Muse, and then another $250 or so for me to upgrade my own components. The total cost for this would be a mere $350 (not including my time for swapping out the components). Plus, I could sell the older parts for a few bucks...or keep as a backup.
Which raises the question of who gets the older parts if Muse does the upgrade?
However, you'll probably see prices like $599.00 for those that just purchased, and $1099.00 for Rev C owners...older hardware might be given a reprieve for $1699.00. Which I think is astronomical of course, but would be in line with what they have charged in the past.
Just a guess though
JR
You could certainly just purchase a hard drive, and that would get you an upgrade into the world of SATA, but you'd need to upgrade the motherboard, RAM, cooling system, etc. to get up to the RECEPTOR 2 PRO or PRO MAX spec.
If you wanted to get all the way to a Receptor 2 PRo or PRO MAX, you'd need to acquire all the parts, drill your chassis to fit the new power supply and ESATA port, purchase a new power supply and install it, modify the BIOS, remove the legacy audio port, fabricate a custom serial cable, etc. etc. etc.
And then of course, since you did all the work yourself, we would not and could not provide any warranty or tech support for you...
When you consider all the effort that goes into upgrades, you quickly see that it is a very fair program we offer, and we only offer it because we want people to have the opportunity to stay current with our hardware platform. Few companies do this, preferring you to go out and buy the newest version all over again. Our thought is that that isn't very respectful of our natural resources, and isn't particularly fair to our customers.
Case in point: I'm typing on a MacBook Pro that's just a few months old, but in terms of their product line up is "discontinued". Do you think they are going to offer me a way to stay current? Absolutely... just go buy a new one! Luckily, in my case, I'm happy with the way it is, and the improvements they made to the latest generation don't warrant buying a new one. However, the improvements in the RECEPTOR 2 are significant, and should you want to exploit those improvements, we're providing what we believe to be a cost-effective way to get there.
Details of the upgrade program are coming soon... thanks for your patience.
Best Regards
Groovology
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- KVRAF
- 4071 posts since 4 Mar, 2008 from Near Pittsburgh
Waiting patiently for the Receptor I just purchased so I'll be waiting patiently for upgrade info soon too! Get those Receptors while people are blowing them out, folks! 
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- KVRist
- 411 posts since 25 Apr, 2007 from Northern CA
> When you consider all the effort that goes into upgrades
Not to undermine all of the work that Muse does, but isn't much of that work because of the effort it takes to manage a Windows infrastructure within Linux? That means much of the effort does not go towards providing more value for our money, but more compatibility that is in line with a 'native' Windows machine. As many people have pointed out, they are waiting for compatibility, not new features. In fact, the new upgrade provides SATA, dual core, Gigabit network, and other features that I have had on my PC for more than 3 years. My old Apple G4 from 2001 has Gigabit network.
Of course, the real reason I complain so much is that I missed your upgrade window by a matter of weeks
Regardless, I think the real value of the Receptor is in the organizational tools that are provided for managing patches and snapshots. I still think you could expand your market by providing your software as a separate product.
JR
Not to undermine all of the work that Muse does, but isn't much of that work because of the effort it takes to manage a Windows infrastructure within Linux? That means much of the effort does not go towards providing more value for our money, but more compatibility that is in line with a 'native' Windows machine. As many people have pointed out, they are waiting for compatibility, not new features. In fact, the new upgrade provides SATA, dual core, Gigabit network, and other features that I have had on my PC for more than 3 years. My old Apple G4 from 2001 has Gigabit network.
Of course, the real reason I complain so much is that I missed your upgrade window by a matter of weeks
Regardless, I think the real value of the Receptor is in the organizational tools that are provided for managing patches and snapshots. I still think you could expand your market by providing your software as a separate product.
JR
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 29 Jan, 2003
I disagree. The real value is in the real time performance of the system. No computer responds as fast to midi and feels to me like a hardware synth as receptor. The difference in measured latency and midi jitter between Receptor and any pc I've ever used is not even close, not even the same ballpark. What they have achieved with their os and as you put it the windows infrastructure within linux is nothing short of remarkable in its ability to perform as a real time OS. It almost feels like QNX or BeOS within its narrow application of hosting vsti.
Jon
Jon
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- KVRAF
- 4071 posts since 4 Mar, 2008 from Near Pittsburgh
I used to be a naysayer but with second-hand units and closeouts available I had to get one and so far I agree with this. My initial findings are just what you say jeamsler - VERY responsive. I also have enjoyed the workflow of creating patches, multis, etc which I feel is very efficient through the remote viewer. That was a bit surprising, even watching the videos I knew what to expect but in real use it is as easy as it looks in the videos.jeamsler wrote:I disagree. The real value is in the real time performance of the system. No computer responds as fast to midi and feels to me like a hardware synth as receptor. The difference in measured latency and midi jitter between Receptor and any pc I've ever used is not even close, not even the same ballpark. What they have achieved with their os and as you put it the windows infrastructure within linux is nothing short of remarkable in its ability to perform as a real time OS. It almost feels like QNX or BeOS within its narrow application of hosting vsti.
Jon
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- KVRian
- 691 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Silicon Valley
bump ..... ???
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- KVRist
- 223 posts since 2 Dec, 2006 from Minnesota
I'm gonna add a bump - Groovology on December 30th re upgrade information "coming soon". I guess it's all relative, but I was hoping it would have been among the NAMM announcements. The new hardware looks cool, but I hope attention can now be turned to getting some more plugs running - that would be (for me) the lastest VB3, BDMO, QL Pianos, Garritan Steinway. I know you all have lots of others. I know...patience, patience...
Tom B
Tom B
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- KVRAF
- 4071 posts since 4 Mar, 2008 from Near Pittsburgh
Yes, get IK to get the Amplitube installer cooking. Love the sound, hate the CPU hit, would love to offload that to the Receptor. Not to mention use live without a computer & StompIO
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- KVRian
- 571 posts since 14 Oct, 2004 from UK
Bump.
Still nothing on Muse's website.
NAMM has gone, Receptor 2 are shipping. What's the delay ?
Still nothing on Muse's website.
NAMM has gone, Receptor 2 are shipping. What's the delay ?
OK, that might be a bit harsh, but still.....-
- KVRAF
- 3971 posts since 19 Apr, 2005 from Brissie
There was an upgrade window?? I didn't hear about it, or receive an email or anythingjohnrule wrote:Of course, the real reason I complain so much is that I missed your upgrade window by a matter of weeks
I've joined Lurkers Anonymous.
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- Mr KVR
- 1580 posts since 23 Oct, 2000 from UK
- KVR Audio
It's not yet possible to book your Receptor in for upgrading, but these are the details:
http://www.museresearch.com/receptor2_upgrades.php
Initially there should be agents in USA, Italy and UK who will be able to undertake the upgrades. Perhaps more, I'm awaiting confirmation from Chris.
http://www.museresearch.com/receptor2_upgrades.php
Initially there should be agents in USA, Italy and UK who will be able to undertake the upgrades. Perhaps more, I'm awaiting confirmation from Chris.