Critique my 'Cello' for Zebra2 please?

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Whoops, thanks. I'll try and put them on Mediafire from now on.
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kajiotaku wrote:http://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=dl&id=1076

Fourth version x-x.
I think the velocity scaling to Env1 attack might be a bit too high - it gives too sharp an attack at high velocities, which makes it sound more like a bassoon than a cello. At lower velocities it does have a recognisable cello sound to it :)

Have you tried using the Osc Dual, Quad and Eleven modes with a bit of Detune to thicken the sound (also gives something of a stringlike timbre)? The various Comb modes all sound quite different too and, when using a Comb module, you might also want to try mixing some of the dry signal back in - your patch feeds everything into the comb, which is set to only output the wet signal, so that it's all 'combed'.

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I'll try that out the moment I get home and turn on everything.
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That's interesting.
I never thought that it would make much sense to make a sound for such a fine instrument with a synthesizer. However, with Zebra I had a rather simple approach a while ago and called it „Cello“ because I had the impression that there was a little bit of similarity in this sound to a cello voice.

http://www.uk-music.de/uploads/software/ukm1_Cello1.rar

It reacts a little bit different if played legato and soft or staccato and hard.
Don't forget aftertouch too.

ukm
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For me, I love to emulate some sounds through synthesis, just to hear how they 'fail', I.E. - they often become reminiscent hybrids, weird organic instruments in their own right...

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http://www.box.net/shared/es1thlhjyl

Changed some things. Also, I tried adjusting single, dual, the detune and other things, and it made a weird phaser sound. I don't know, maybe I broke it. Besides, the -0.07 detune seems to work fine so far.
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kajiotaku wrote:http://www.box.net/shared/es1thlhjyl

Changed some things. Also, I tried adjusting single, dual, the detune and other things, and it made a weird phaser sound. I don't know, maybe I broke it. Besides, the -0.07 detune seems to work fine so far.
The attack sounds better, much more natural. It sounds like a cello :) The vibrato is perhaps a bit timid - to me it sounds better if all of the Osc's have vibrato amount set at maximum and the Comb has no vibrato at all.

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Wouldn't it sound better if all the oscs have vibrato, but the comb doesn't?
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kajiotaku wrote:Wouldn't it sound better if all the oscs have vibrato, but the comb doesn't?
Yep - that's what I said :wink:

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hakey wrote:
kajiotaku wrote:Wouldn't it sound better if all the oscs have vibrato, but the comb doesn't?
Yep - that's what I said :wink:
Sorry, I didn't read it right x-x It was early, I didn't want to be in school, and my Steel Drum teacher has a voice that corrodes my brain.

http://www.box.net/shared/3grspkiye7

I hope that's the version with the altered vibratos.
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Howard wrote:OK, here's my attempt:
http://www.box.net/shared/8oc7102qj2
Hey thanks a lot! :)
Checkin it out now. :)
Awesome...or even could say versatile.

Oh sounds great...you just need to add a little vibrato here, and some salt into the comb...don't forget the phaser turned on stun...blaahhh :lol:

"jus kiddin"

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Hmm, it's interesting how most of these cello patches have tended towards the smoother, 'mellow cello' end of the spectrum.

It had me wondering whether I had misremembered what a cello sounds like - in my head it has that deep mahogany colour but above that a taught, frictive sound as horsehair is dragged across rosin and tensioned bronze.

Jacqueline du Pré's famous interpretation of Elgar is probably the first thing that comes to mind if I try to recall a cello sound:

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kajiotaku wrote:
http://www.box.net/shared/3grspkiye7

I hope that's the version with the altered vibratos.
The vibrato is still quite light - but maybe that's how you like it? You know that the amplitude of LFO1 (which is routed to vibrato) is at less than 50% and the Vibrato amount in each of your Osc's is at less than 50%, so you're only getting 25%, or less, of the maximum vibrato amplitude :wink:

But, if you like the amount of vibrato you've got, just ignore me, it's your patch after all.

I usually set aftertouch to slightly increase LFO1's rate to mimic the way that a string player often increases vibrato speed with amplitude. I think I read in that SOS article that for string instruments adding vibrato also adds some tremolo, so I sometimes send a touch of LFO1 modulation to Osc Volume.

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Do you think I'd be able to sell similar patches for Zebra? Obviously not this one, as it's free and a test, but would people even buy it? Would probably just make a bank of about 20 or more and sell it for, like, 2 to 5 bucks or something. The price would come up of course if there's, like, 40 patches. Besides, I'm just doing this for fun.
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