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liquidsound wrote:Jo, I think I found another alternative for the Plug Slot issue.

Arrow button:
as of now, LMB = Open Plug-in
how about, RMB = Close Plug-in (right now RMB is Null).
Or maybe a shortcut to close the Focused Plug-in...

What I am looking for is a way to get a Plug-in In and Out quickly for rapid adjustments of parameters via MIDI without going with the mouse up and down. On a laptop is even more important when the mouse is not available.

Actually a Shortcut to close the focused Plug-in would be even more effective in most cases. But both ways is even better.

As the Book says: Ask, and Ye Shall Receive. :hail:

Whenever possible... :oops:
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Never mind the shortcut!
I just saw the "Close" shortcut and i didn't realized it could be used for the Plug-in. Great!!
Glad you found a solution :)

Hey, you can also press [Esc] to close an editor. That's what i personally use all the time.

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Nielzie wrote:I don't know what others think of it, but personally I would prefer to have the loop points standard "on" (enabled). It's what I'm used to this from other daws I have used, and now I always have to put them on again.. I use this function a LOT.

Anyone else having the same preference or is it just me?
Or maybe an "always on" switch somewhere so you can choose? Maybe under preferences or something or under the right-click menu?
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pquenin wrote:Edit Shorcuts:
I wanted to add shorcuts for "Loop on/off", "Record", because my midi keyboard has controls for them, and but no such thing in the list of shortcuts.
"Toggle Loop" and "Start/Stop Recording".

Maybe the latter should be "Toggle Recording" to be more consistent.
And I don't understand what "generic" and "specific" is in the shortcuts system.
See the updated docs soon.
So, why don't we find all the mulab functions in the shorcuts, is it intentional, due to technical problems?
I think more than 90% of all functions are shortcuttable. Some of them are not (yet?) for technical reasons.
Mulab 3.0.10 is very close to the perfection, congratulations Jo for your incredible work and reactivity !
Thank you all for all your interesting feedback!! :tu:

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Nielzie wrote:I don't know what others think of it, but personally I would prefer to have the loop points standard "on" (enabled). It's what I'm used to this from other daws I have used, and now I always have to put them on again.. I use this function a LOT.

Anyone else having the same preference or is it just me?
What do others think?

I think this is only an issue when doing 'New Session', right?

Note that when you have a New.MuSession in the Mulab folder, that session is loaded when doing New Session, and so you can setup a default session as you want :)

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Nielzie wrote:
Nielzie wrote:I don't know what others think of it, but personally I would prefer to have the loop points standard "on" (enabled). It's what I'm used to this from other daws I have used, and now I always have to put them on again.. I use this function a LOT.

Anyone else having the same preference or is it just me?
Or maybe an "always on" switch somewhere so you can choose? Maybe under preferences or something or under the right-click menu?
before mutools gives his opinion, here's a tip:
you can customize your own default session by saving a session as 'new.musession' in mulab's root folder. that session will be opened when you select 'create new session'.

EDIT: lol, i guess. :hihi:
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sorohanro wrote:Posted previously in the wrong thread:
I've deleted your other post in the other thread, just to cleanup ;)

Replies on your post are in this thread :)

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mutools wrote:
gemada wrote:
Do you mean you would rather want a doubleclick to popup the "Choose Target" list?
Yes.
What do others think of this?
Thanks again for your replies :)

Just a short explanation about my suggestion (double click the track to popup "choose target"):

It prevents those situations when you click once in a "reflexive gesture" (don't know how to explain...sorry for by bad english) or you want to mute the track and miss the mute icon (then it will open the "choose target" menu but you just wanted to mute the track)...
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Nielzie wrote:I don't know what others think of it, but personally I would prefer to have the loop points standard "on" (enabled). It's what I'm used to this from other daws I have used, and now I always have to put them on again.. I use this function a LOT.

Anyone else having the same preference or is it just me?
I don't know what you are speaking about...

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mutools wrote:
Nielzie wrote:I don't know what others think of it, but personally I would prefer to have the loop points standard "on" (enabled). It's what I'm used to this from other daws I have used, and now I always have to put them on again.. I use this function a LOT.

Anyone else having the same preference or is it just me?
What do others think?

I think this is only an issue when doing 'New Session', right?

Note that when you have a New.MuSession in the Mulab folder, that session is loaded when doing New Session, and so you can setup a default session as you want :)
Ahh great, thanks for the tip! :)
No band limits, aliasing is the noise of freedom!

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My thoughts:

1) I think there is enough grid info in the mouse cursor display at the bottom-right of the editor. I try to keep the gui as simple as possible. The more texts, info, buttons, ... the more complex and the less transparant the gui.

2) Regarding the track headers: i had similar ideas, still evaluating this.

1) You have to right click - composition - grid (it's a long way)...
And the mouse cursor display just shows up a limited information about grid (snap on/off) for a second...i can't see any useful information there about grid size and if it's on/off...i'm i missing something?
I think that some kind of quick and easy access to grid configuration and some simple grid info in the gui would still keep it simple and transparent...something like this:


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2) Track headers should really have something more there...i know it must be a clean and "simple" daw but IMHO sometimes it's more complex and "less clean" to access basic controls with mouse clicks and popup menus...

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About the grid : I understand the 2 points of view. Perhaps, you can have a menu in the mouse cursor display to change the grid settings ?

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gemada wrote:I think that some kind of quick and easy access to grid configuration and some simple grid info in the gui would still keep it simple and transparent...something like this:

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wow! :love:
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[quote="pquenin"]File, Edit and Help popup menus should "appear" under File, Edit and Help...they shouldn't hide those...something like this:

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True. But i needs a skin update as the menu buttons need a down state, which doesn't exist yet. Not sure if this will be possible before M3.0 release.

Calum?

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mutools wrote:
sorohanro wrote:Looks good, a bit too dark (I liked more the previous 2.7 skin and color palette).
Strange, nothing has changed in this aspect. It's the same skin.
Checked again... no, it's different.
The M2.7 have gray background while M3 have black background.

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mutools wrote:
liquidsound wrote:
sorohanro wrote:Now I found the "Templates" from where you can chose devices that you an use...
Should it be renamed ? Devices... Synths... Instruments ?
It seems (I am not sure because this is a Test Free version) that as soon you browse and choose a Plug-in, the context menu changes and the built in synths are listed by name and when collapsed they show the list of presets and the Template is no longer available in the first selection but nested inside a built in synth!.Cool indeed but unpredictable at first. :o
and...a little strange :roll:
I don't see what you mean. No such intended behaviour. The patch list should always be the same. No?
I agree with him, and this is something I stumbled on a bit initially. It is strange that the actual module itself is a subset of the preset library (either as in the templates folder or the modules modestly hidden amongst the list).

I agree overall that having a unified patch library is the way to go though... as this has been brought up the time seems right to paste the stuff from my usability txt when I get home. In short though, I think it's a good design.

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