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wazun · Post by **wazun** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:34 pm

I noticed, that the square waveform from ACE doesn't really look like a square, more like a bend triangle. Is there a reason for this?
Is it possible to get a (almost) real square wave out of ACE?

MitchK1989 · Post by **MitchK1989** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:35 am

try the LFO patched to the output.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:04 am

Looks like a square wave to me.

xybre · Post by **xybre** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:26 am

I'm confused, why is s(M)exoscope showing something completely different?

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:42 am

I just recorded a bit of audio from Ace. Same as Smexoscope display...

Cyforce · Post by **Cyforce** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:50 am

xybre wrote:
I'm confused, why is s(M)exoscope showing something completely different?

Strange

The ace square sounds for me like a nic esquare, but in the smartelectronics scope it looks don't like a square, hmm perhaps the scope is broken?

sches · Post by **sches** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:05 am

This square has a correct harmonic content, but looks like a squre passed through HP filter with zero cutoff. Maybe reason in that filters in ACE can't be turned off (only with cutoff knob)?

wazun · Post by **wazun** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:06 am

I'd rather have a "normal" square, because it has almost no dynamic range ( the ACE square has around 9 db dynamic range) and you can produce a subjective louder and punchy bass with it.

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:10 am

sches wrote:This square has a correct harmonic content, but looks like a squre passed through HP filter with zero cutoff. Maybe reason in that filters in ACE can't be turned off (only with cutoff knob)?

Could be..

Interesting thread so far

sches · Post by **sches** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:13 am

Or maybe, most possible, ACE has an output DC removal filter, usually that is an HP with low cutoff.

xh3rv · Post by **xh3rv** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:39 am

sches wrote:This square has a correct harmonic content, but looks like a squre passed through HP filter with zero cutoff. Maybe reason in that filters in ACE can't be turned off (only with cutoff knob)?

Ya, it definitely looks like a high-passed square wave ... even more when a low pass filter removes the spiky bits.

xybre · Post by **xybre** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:57 am

Watching ACE's oscillators drift in a spectrogram is really hypnotic btw.

I just spent the last couple of hours working on ACE patches. Damn.

emtear · Post by **emtear** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:15 pm

all i can think is this has something to do with the analog programing.

analog synths do not have perfect waves, giving them the character they have...

just a thought

matt

Mans · Post by **Mans** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:11 pm

emtear wrote:all i can think is this has something to do with the analog programing.

analog synths do not have perfect waves, giving them the character they have...

just a thought

matt

Where do you think the terms sawtooth, square etc come from?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:11 pm

sches wrote:This square has a correct harmonic content, but looks like a squre passed through HP filter with zero cutoff. Maybe reason in that filters in ACE can't be turned off (only with cutoff knob)?

You can cable an osc straight out instead of through the filter

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KVR Audio

ACE: square waveform