editelectro wrote:3.V Release Date?
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Here they write about a release in 8 weeks which would be around the beginning of June:Ingonator wrote:The version at the Messe was an alpha version and the beta should be started soon.electro wrote:3.V Release Date?
The only thing that's sure is that the development time will take less than ImpOSCar 2...
http://de-bug.de/musiktechnik/archives/3949.html
IMO this would be the earliest possible release date if no bigger problems occur so it could take a bit longer than that.
Besides removing bugs and/or adding new features during beta testing also new factory sounds have to be made...
BTW in that article on De:bug they propose a price of 150 Euros. Let's see if that's the final one.
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- KVRist
- 476 posts since 6 Aug, 2004
Hermann 'The envelopes are not analog. They are calculated digitally; the result is then sent through a DAC to convert it into a control voltage for the VCF / VCA (which are analog). As for the rest... '
How can you explain then that the envs are as sharp and snappy sounding
on the real 2.3 when it only has so few cpu calculating power for the envs
as it has
, even synths that used a faster z80A ( sequential sixtrak, multitrack etc)
for env calculation were very sluggish , the ppg2.3 however has by far the best attack time i heard on any synth of its generation, it would understandable if it had the 16 bit 68000 of the waveterm B , but the 2.3 on its own
nimble cpu calculating the OS and all modulators it is short of a miracle
Bitreduced just doesnt mean playing out 8 bit waves on a 16bit dac output , if
it were that simple all bitreduction plugins would sound exactly like
playing 8 bit on a real 8 or 12 bit dac wich they shure dont
the fact that the real ppgs used 8 and 12 bit dacs is one of the things
why the plugin versions will sound different, it's not simply a question of
leaving out 4 to 8 more bits of output range available on a 16 bit dac
How can you explain then that the envs are as sharp and snappy sounding
on the real 2.3 when it only has so few cpu calculating power for the envs
as it has
, even synths that used a faster z80A ( sequential sixtrak, multitrack etc)
for env calculation were very sluggish , the ppg2.3 however has by far the best attack time i heard on any synth of its generation, it would understandable if it had the 16 bit 68000 of the waveterm B , but the 2.3 on its own
nimble cpu calculating the OS and all modulators it is short of a miracle
Bitreduced just doesnt mean playing out 8 bit waves on a 16bit dac output , if
it were that simple all bitreduction plugins would sound exactly like
playing 8 bit on a real 8 or 12 bit dac wich they shure dont
the fact that the real ppgs used 8 and 12 bit dacs is one of the things
why the plugin versions will sound different, it's not simply a question of
leaving out 4 to 8 more bits of output range available on a 16 bit dac
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
editelectro wrote:What is the latest info on the 3.V?
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
I don't know at the moment but for Largo no 64-bit software is available so far.draft14 wrote:Are there any plans to release PPG v.3 or Largo in 64bit native?
I guess that first the "normal" beta must be finished before thinking about this.
Anyway i could not go deeper into the features of PPG 3.V since i'm under NDA and could get into trouble if i tell too much.
If some official person from Waldorf Music would post in a public forum like this it would be different.
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- KVRAF
- 2784 posts since 18 Apr, 2001
For those that don't have a PPG VSTi yet; there IS a free emulation floating on the web
... and no, it isn't in the KVR database
... and no, it isn't in the KVR database
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.
- KVRAF
- 5817 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there
No, it's in Arakula's sig.crimsonwarlock wrote:For those that don't have a PPG VSTi yet; there IS a free emulation floating on the web![]()
... and no, it isn't in the KVR database
- KVRAF
- 2784 posts since 18 Apr, 2001
Ah, didn't know that 
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
And yes, PPG 3.V is intended to become no more no less the ultimate emulation, including all the Lo-Fi elements of the original synth's sound.crimsonwarlock wrote:For those that don't have a PPG VSTi yet; there IS a free emulation floating on the web![]()
... and no, it isn't in the KVR database
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 25 Apr, 2004 from 48Hz
any news on the release date ???
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8094 posts since 16 Oct, 2006
Beta testing has not started yet *probably in a day or two* and then there's the factory content..so we're a way off yet.states wrote:any news on the release date ???
Rob
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Not so far.states wrote:any news on the release date ???
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8094 posts since 16 Oct, 2006
2-3 months just for my own sounds and testing aswellIngonator wrote:Not so far. Testing will start very soon so it will take at least 2-3 months i guess.states wrote:any news on the release date ???
Rob
