I'm intrigued by the ISP, I like the concept of eliminating noise at the input and at the fx loopAgreed wrote:Hey, make sure you account for VAT in that!!NEKRO.MACHINE wrote:Can not find a plug-in gate for my guitar needs and therefore before going into a HiZ or DI box i always use one of my trusty Boss NS-2 noise suppressors. Just work and i have tried all the other hardware and software gates/suppressors but nothing touches the Boss NS-2 that is available at the moment. Course that may change but it has not for aslong as i can recall. Should be able to find one cheap on ebay used
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I also run external noise reduction first and foremost, in my case an ISP Decimator G-String before, to handle all my dirt pedals. Bringing out the big guns before the DI so it has dead silence going in, then if necessary I'll get out G-Gate if the sim itself has self-noise (which is actually a good sign, especially for high gain amps - high gain preamps are freaking noisy, the power supply and preamp tubes DO make noise in the physical world, if a high gain amp sim is dead silent I raise an eyebrow, not that it stops me from using it if it sounds good).
free, best noise gate for guitar?
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
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- KVRAF
- 2844 posts since 1 Jan, 2003
The gate is nice, but I couldn't get the hum canceler to work AT ALL. I really wanted it to work. That was disappointinghibidy wrote:Since I don't know, I thought I'd point this out as they have a gate AND a hum canceler. http://www.toneboosters.com/
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- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
Good point regarding VATAgreed wrote:Hey, make sure you account for VAT in that!!NEKRO.MACHINE wrote:Can not find a plug-in gate for my guitar needs and therefore before going into a HiZ or DI box i always use one of my trusty Boss NS-2 noise suppressors. Just work and i have tried all the other hardware and software gates/suppressors but nothing touches the Boss NS-2 that is available at the moment. Course that may change but it has not for aslong as i can recall. Should be able to find one cheap on ebay used
£0.02p (GBP)
Dean/Nekro
I also run external noise reduction first and foremost, in my case an ISP Decimator G-String before, to handle all my dirt pedals. Bringing out the big guns before the DI so it has dead silence going in, then if necessary I'll get out G-Gate if the sim itself has self-noise (which is actually a good sign, especially for high gain amps - high gain preamps are freaking noisy, the power supply and preamp tubes DO make noise in the physical world, if a high gain amp sim is dead silent I raise an eyebrow, not that it stops me from using it if it sounds good).
- KVRist
- 450 posts since 6 Sep, 2003
Slim Slow Slider AutoGate-Expander: http://www.kvraudio.com/db/auto_gate_ex ... low_sliderclayman256 wrote:I want to make sure I have the best noise gate, so what's the best one you guys know?
I want to eliminate all electrical humming the best way without deteriorating my tone.
Even though a bit old, but it's the best free one I've found so far for guitar use. It has adjustable attack, hold and release and nice features like LPF/HPF filters to tune the gate to certain frequency range.
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
regarding shielding the guitar cavity - that requires a three wire cable. basically you use a balanced cable where the ends of the pickup/etc connect across the n/p differential wires, and the cavity connects to ground. if you _don't_ do this, adding a shield inside will actually just make the guitar and even bigger antenna.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
I do not believe this is true but I am open to some proof of concept..having 5 guitars that are shielded in the manner I describe and none of them getting and rfi I think you are going to be hard pressed to actually prove this.aciddose wrote:regarding shielding the guitar cavity - that requires a three wire cable. basically you use a balanced cable where the ends of the pickup/etc connect across the n/p differential wires, and the cavity connects to ground. if you _don't_ do this, adding a shield inside will actually just make the guitar and even bigger antenna.
edit: according to this video (which I believe 100% to be true) Fender does not agree with you.
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- KVRAF
- 21348 posts since 26 Jul, 2005 from Gone
Actually it's not necessarily a case of making the guitar an antenna here - the reason shielding works is that it's basically a Faraday Cage and the only thing you need is to enclose the electronics and to be sure that the enclosure is grounded.
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- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
If the guitar's electronics are grounded and the cavity is shielded plus hum is still at a high level then something like Ebtech's Hum Eliminator or ART's Coolbox series hum silencer which both just sit as passive devices lifting the ground would do the trick. Pick em up for £20/£30. I have never needed one FWIW but they do do the trick just fine
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- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
Nowt to do with shielding, noise gating/superessing or hum eliminating but a good idea:
If you have issues with a wirless system - Do it, its mint
If you have issues with a wirless system - Do it, its mint
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
there was a guitar in the 80s (I want to say Bill Lawrence but I dont think that's right) that had wireless built into it. As I recall Brad Gillis from Night Ranger advertised and used them. Searching Brad Gillis and wireless guitar gets me results for Fernandez but I'm certain that is not the guitar I'm thinking of, if I'm not mistaken the guitar also had quick swap out pickups.NEKRO.MACHINE wrote:Nowt to do with shielding, noise gating/superessing or hum eliminating but a good idea:
If you have issues with a wirless system - Do it, its mint
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- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
With the pickup system it obviously brings to mind Dan Armstrong but i doubt that is who you are trying to recall either. Wireless packs are much improved though these days by miles, So no wonder it did not take off at the time!
I like the grindcore bit Ben does on his organ thing and the 'puppet show' box

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I like the grindcore bit Ben does on his organ thing and the 'puppet show' box
Being a driving force in The Dillinger Escape Plan is always going to bring with it an odd ball though/part of territory
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
no, I'm quite familiar with the Dan Armstrong Lucite guitars (which as I recal was marketed by Ampeg) that had the pick-ups that slid in and out (use to drool over them as a kid at our local store because on the stones get you yah yahs out there is a picture of one being played). An old friend of mine actually bought one years later and I thought it was the deadest guitar I ever heardNEKRO.MACHINE wrote:With the pickup system it obviously brings to mind Dan Armstrong but i doubt that is who you are trying to recall either. Wireless packs are much improved though these days by miles, So no wonder it did not take off at the time!
I like the grindcore bit Ben does on his organ thing and the 'puppet show' box![]()
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- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
BC Rich did some plastic (obviously called it something fancy like plexiglass or whatnot but at the bottom line its plastic still) versions/editions of some of thier models and i was not a fan, I mean they looked pretty cool from a visual point of view but they had those horrid 'Widow' headstocks which are ghastly and well whatever stock pickups were in them sounded junk as did the guitar probably as a whole even if i had bought one and put pickups of my choice in it. Maybe something for rock & roll music videos and at a push live shows it would good to pull one out for a few tracks but i will make do with the usual tonewood suspects anyday
(same with those plastic drumkit shells which i have only spotted in videos). Ampeg also did re-issue the Dan Armstrong model a few years ago IIRC, limited edition i think but i can not see the benefits of a plastics/acryrillic/whatever guitar. Also some of James Trussart's rusty metal plated guitars again look great but i can not see the point (bar breaking my already shoddy back) and even an original (Greg IIRC) Zemantis i would pass quite happily on for the same reason plus they cost a bloody fortune. If you remeber who it was flashing the guitar with built-in wireless system and modular/hot swap pickups i would like to see it and read the advert still 
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- KVRAF
- 1869 posts since 15 Sep, 2003 from Land of Crazies, USA
bpblog wrote:try reagate and floorfish.
I know this is an *old* thread but I found it while trying to eliminate excess noise from a distortion pedal. I was looking at the ISP, MXR, and Boss pedals and then decided to give ReaGate a shot. Worked perfectly, didn't lose any high end or anything. I do own an ISP Theta Pedal with the Decimator built in, but most of my other distortion pedals aren't quite that nice. Since I use EMGs, the guitar itself is pretty quiet, but when using physical distortion pedals as part of my signal chain (mostly as preamps going into power amp simulator plugins), I was looking for some way to get rid of the noise.
All I had to do was adjust the threshold to the point where the noise floor was and I was done.
FYI, this basically shows what I'm doing:
(Not my video, of course. I'm kinda afraid of posting any of the noise I'm making.
Except, I'm going overdrive pedal --> distortion pedal --> computer. Graphic EQ plugin for shaping, power amp sim for flavor, and then IR cabinet.
