+1hakey wrote:Well, tbh, acid/techno isn't really my thing anyway. I'm more interested in the idea of something with vintage Moogy flavour in DIVA.
The long DIVA thread
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- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
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twolegstoneworks twolegstoneworks https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7585 - KVRian
- 1426 posts since 12 Jun, 2003 from Denmark
Definately +1 aswell. No need for a 303 model imo. Zebra can do pretty rough acidy sounds, so no need for this in DIVA. A Moogy flavour is much preferedHoward wrote:+1hakey wrote:Well, tbh, acid/techno isn't really my thing anyway. I'm more interested in the idea of something with vintage Moogy flavour in DIVA.
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- u-he
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- 30192 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Regarding Oberheim, there's an OB-Xa waiting for me to be picked up 
However, the OP-X is modelled after the older OB-X. While the architecture of both synths is similar, the OB-Xa uses completely different components to achieve a smaller form factor, lower price and higher reliability. This unfortunately also does something slightly diminishing to the sound, so it'll be rather difficult to get there all they way.
Nevertheless, there's some good stuff around here. My favourite filter algorithm at u-he has not been put in any of the plugs yet
Urs
However, the OP-X is modelled after the older OB-X. While the architecture of both synths is similar, the OB-Xa uses completely different components to achieve a smaller form factor, lower price and higher reliability. This unfortunately also does something slightly diminishing to the sound, so it'll be rather difficult to get there all they way.
Nevertheless, there's some good stuff around here. My favourite filter algorithm at u-he has not been put in any of the plugs yet
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- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
So, when is the ship going to take off?. Hope we can see/test some early stages, as in Bazille. I'm looking forward to it (all this talking has waken-up my appetite)Urs wrote:Regarding Oberheim, there's an OB-Xa waiting for me to be picked up
However, the OP-X is modelled after the older OB-X. While the architecture of both synths is similar, the OB-Xa uses completely different components to achieve a smaller form factor, lower price and higher reliability. This unfortunately also does something slightly diminishing to the sound, so it'll be rather difficult to get there all they way.
Nevertheless, there's some good stuff around here. My favourite filter algorithm at u-he has not been put in any of the plugs yet
Fernando (FMR)
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- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
While we're at it, in what way could we achieve the kind of sounds we had with the Xpander/Matrix-12? Are you going to somehow make a synth that could approach such an architecture?Urs wrote:Regarding Oberheim, there's an OB-Xa waiting for me to be picked up
However, the OP-X is modelled after the older OB-X. While the architecture of both synths is similar, the OB-Xa uses completely different components to achieve a smaller form factor, lower price and higher reliability. This unfortunately also does something slightly diminishing to the sound, so it'll be rather difficult to get there all they way.
I am tired of waiting for something like the Matrix-12 in software. They also use more modern components than the OB-X, but these two are still regarded as one of the pinnacles of hardware synths.
Fernando (FMR)
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- 30192 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Well, as you might know, I had a Matrix12 for a while that made a couple of bleeps before it died and needed to be brought to repair. I wasn't a big fan to be honest. I think that software generated modulations (think Matrix 6/12/1000, Jupiter-6) are exactly the thing I'm seeking to avoid in Diva. I also want to avoid complex routing options. Latter will be covered by Berlin Modular, and of course by Zebra.
However, I wouldn't mind adding a multimode filter as seen in Matrix/Xpander, but I wouldn't want to tame it to the degree it was tamed in the originals. I think Diva will be better off with some stronger stuff.
That said, I have an offer to borrow an Xpander for unlimited time, maybe it has some qualities that I simply don't know of. I wouldn't bet on it tho...
However, I wouldn't mind adding a multimode filter as seen in Matrix/Xpander, but I wouldn't want to tame it to the degree it was tamed in the originals. I think Diva will be better off with some stronger stuff.
That said, I have an offer to borrow an Xpander for unlimited time, maybe it has some qualities that I simply don't know of. I wouldn't bet on it tho...
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- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
Do that and study it carefully. I think what's woderful in Xpander/Matrix-12 is the possibilities opened by the many optional modulators and routing options. It's not any component by itself, rather the sum of them.Urs wrote:Well, as you might know, I had a Matrix12 for a while that made a couple of bleeps before it died and needed to be brought to repair. I wasn't a big fan to be honest. I think that software generated modulations (think Matrix 6/12/1000, Jupiter-6) are exactly the thing I'm seeking to avoid in Diva. I also want to avoid complex routing options. Latter will be covered by Berlin Modular, and of course by Zebra.
However, I wouldn't mind adding a multimode filter as seen in Matrix/Xpander, but I wouldn't want to tame it to the degree it was tamed in the originals. I think Diva will be better off with some stronger stuff.
That said, I have an offer to borrow an Xpander for unlimited time, maybe it has some qualities that I simply don't know of. I wouldn't bet on it tho...
Maybe you find there something still missing in Zebra, or an idea for a new synth
. Anyway, a multimode filter like the one in Xpander built in Diva will be a great addition, IMO (15 modes if I'm not mistaken).
Fernando (FMR)
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- KVRAF
- 24412 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Definitely study the Xpander! 15 filter modes, damn! Obies were really quite something back then.
Urs - about the unreleased filter algo - can today's CPUs handle it?
Urs - about the unreleased filter algo - can today's CPUs handle it?
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- KVRist
- 293 posts since 18 Jul, 2003
I have also been a huge fan of music created with the Matrix-12, especially early Steve Roach. Hopefully you'll find some ideas if you have a chance to play with the Xpander. I have also been waiting for something to capture this vibe in software...
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- KVRian
- 657 posts since 2 May, 2002 from Kalispell, MT
Yeah, I'm really wanting to move to Mac (thinking of buying one this weekend) but I would totally miss OPX. That and the Uhe stuff are hands down my favorite synths. Honestly, the thing most encouraging me to make the jump is that Zebra, Ace and Tyrell are all available as well as the Bazille alpha/beta.rockin1 wrote:Being a Mac user, I would love it if DIVA could also handle the Oberheim emulation. Mac users don't get the choice of using OP-XVectorman wrote:Whatever else may surface in DIVA, I think even just having genuinely good emu's of voice components from Roland analogues like the JP-8 and Juno 60 would make the package a hit (Tyrell is certainly promising). If you could do for Roland analogue emulation what OP-X has done for Oberheim emulation, that would be a hell of a thing.
Anyone have any ideas how well the synths perform on the new low end MB Pro?
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- Banned
- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
I got a 1year old mbp with 4gb ram, and a 2.8ghz, core duo2.GruvSyco wrote: Anyone have any ideas how well the synths perform on the new low end MB Pro?
On some long release times with ACE or Tyrell, they can at times hover around 50% cpu. It really depends on many factors, like how many voices used.
Quality settings and such.
If you do get a macbookpro, I'd suggest using the customize options of adding to the cost, and getting a solid state7200 hardrive, as I read they are better for audio work. Getting 8gb ram instead, might help too.
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- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
Regarding the work with virtual instruments, definitely get as much RAM as you can buy (but don't buy it at Apple, since they ask more for it than third parties). Anyway, a low end computer is a low end computer (Mac or PC), so don't expect very much in terms of processing power.mcnoone wrote:I got a 1year old mbp with 4gb ram, and a 2.8ghz, core duo2.GruvSyco wrote: Anyone have any ideas how well the synths perform on the new low end MB Pro?
On some long release times with ACE or Tyrell, they can at times hover around 50% cpu. It really depends on many factors, like how many voices used.
Quality settings and such.
If you do get a macbookpro, I'd suggest using the customize options of adding to the cost, and getting a solid state7200 hardrive, as I read they are better for audio work. Getting 8gb ram instead, might help too.
Regarding the HD, buy a third party external HD in a FW case, and use that instead. They are much cheaper and much bigger, and very good for audio. My advice is: buy at Apple just what you can't buy elsewhere. They rip you off as much as they can.
Fernando (FMR)
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- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
I guess there's already more than enough requests/suggestions for DIVA in this thread?
Oh well, here's a couple more:
How about a divide down oscillator mode + Solina/Eminent style chorus/ensemble?
Oh well, here's a couple more:
How about a divide down oscillator mode + Solina/Eminent style chorus/ensemble?
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- Topic Starter
- 30192 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Yes, I might get to that...hakey wrote:I guess there's already more than enough requests/suggestions for DIVA in this thread?
Oh well, here's a couple more:
How about a divide down oscillator mode + Solina/Eminent style chorus/ensemble?