The long DIVA thread

[himalaya]

Yeah the sequencer is always a plus. I've never played any of the CS synths, would love to however. Is there any chance of having the CS80 ring mod modeled for us?

[Urs]

Well, the CS-80 ringmod isn't exclusive to the cs-80, innit? I think the main issue is its extra envelope.

We'll see... I just find it rather important to only add modules to Diva that we also really have around.

[himalaya]

Yep. I think I'm romanticizing more after a 'Vangelis' button. Press that and everything is ring modulated in a very nice musical fashion.

[Bronto Scorpio]

Yep. I think I'm romanticizing more after a 'Vangelis' button. Press that and everything is ring modulated in a very nice musical fashion.

It's somehow very hard to use ringmod as musical as Vangelis does.

Cheers
Dennis

[himalaya]

I think that's the way forward. Why model individual components and have all those patching points...just have, say a 'Kraftwerk' button, a 'Klause Shulze' button, a 'JMJ' one, and a 'Deadmou5' button (compulsory!) and we have a synth!

[News From The Sky]

I think that's the way forward. Why model individual components and have all those patching points...just have, say a 'Kraftwerk' button, a 'Klause Shulze' button, a 'JMJ' one, and a 'Deadmou5' button (compulsory!) and we have a synth!

I have it on good authority that ACE was designed specifically to re-create the Blue Monday bass sound...


(In fact, I think ACE secretly stands for Achtzigerjahre Clubmusik Ewig. Urs made up that "Any Cable Everywhere" nonsense.)

[Urs]

I have it on good authority that ACE was designed specifically to re-create the Blue Monday bass sound...


(In fact, I think ACE secretly stands for Achtzigerjahre Clubmusik Ewig. Urs made up that "Any Cable Everywhere" nonsense.)

Actually... it was the glorified memory of that bass sound

The original name for ACE was Alien Circuit Emulation. Seriously. Check out http://www.aliencircuits.com

[Bronto Scorpio]

I have it on good authority that ACE was designed specifically to re-create the Blue Monday bass sound...


(In fact, I think ACE secretly stands for Achtzigerjahre Clubmusik Ewig. Urs made up that "Any Cable Everywhere" nonsense.)

Actually... it was the glorified memory of that bass sound

The original name for ACE was Alien Circuit Emulation. Seriously. Check out http://www.aliencircuits.com

[himalaya]

I sense a distortion in time continuum. Those pesky aliens...

[Vectorman]

I'm digging Tyrell a lot and do hope that some version of DIVA makes it out this year, even if it has only a few of the oscillator/filter modules that would ultimately be included in later versions (assuming that it will be coded in an easily-extensible fashion where new osc/filter modules could simply be "dropped in" later, like the software equivalent of Studio Electronics' plug-in cartridges).

[Urs]

We'll soon be dedicating a lot of time for this...

We're basically just beta testing RTAS Mac in the final stages and removing a few niggles from installers and all, and then we're all set to release about everything. And then we'll have a lot of time for some fun stuff!

[carrieres]

anyone know what kind of filters is inside the yamaha cs30 ?

Yamaha's own VCF chip IG00156 which was used widely in the CS and SK range of keyboards. It's a state variable filter - two stages with VC controlled resonance. Quite a distinctive sound I think and different enough from other SVF designs.

Tony

thanks !
i own a sh1 and a cs30, let me know if you want some samples to study those analogue beasts !

[Nielzie]

Urs, just curious but.. if you where restricted to just 3 hardware synths of your current collection to use for DIVA, which would it be and why?

[Urs]

Urs, just curious but.. if you where restricted to just 3 hardware synths of your current collection to use for DIVA, which would it be and why?

That is a difficult question.

All smirking aside, the Juno 60 wins any race - so few sliders, so much self esteem. If you took it from there, the natural choice for variety would be the MS20 (2osc, very different filters) and, hmmm, probably the Mini. On the other hand side then you don't have sync sounds at all, and you don't have a clean filter (my Juno 60 is calibrated for surprisingly 303ish sounds... mind you!)

If we took the outsider approach, the Korg 800dv is weird, not too flexible but also stunningly gorgeous in every single way. From there I'd take the System 100 (old semi-modular base unit) with its unmistakable diode ladder, and, hmmm... maybe the Jupiter 8 for clarity, sync and crossmodulation (piffle the Oscar doesn't do that). The Jupiter 8 is simply the cleanest synth ever. Nothing in its sound is bothering. The 800dv rivals the Juno as best sounding synth IMHO.

In the end it boils down to gorgeousness vs. features. I could go on with threesomes for all kinds of aspects. There's no single synth I'd happily dismiss.

We'll have to make hard choices for Diva. I really hope we get some aspects of the 800dv modelled. That, the Mini and the Juno would be my favourite ingredients. And then something to fill the lacking features (these have no sync, no filter fm and generally a low profile feature set... these just sound great...)

We'll see...

Urs

[fas1piano]

If we took the outsider approach, the Korg 800dv is weird, not too flexible but also stunningly gorgeous in every single way.

yes! in my very first rehearsal room in berlin ('98 under metro station schlesisches tor) there was an orange plastic suitcase in the corner someone from one of the other bands had left there. it never got moved, so one day we opened it and inside was this

http://www.amazona.de/index.php?page=26 ... le_id=1578

(i.e. half an 800DV)

we spent hours and hours smoking, drinking, holding two notes (one at a time, sometimes a two-note chord made with the oscillators) and just sliding the "traveler" around. had no clue what the other stuff was there for...