The long DIVA thread

[Bronto Scorpio]

Always wanted to ask that: Is there a reason why no one uses OSC? The only VST that supports it is circle

It was some kind of chicken egg situation some years before. Just the Lemur and the Monome (and maybe some other devices) supported it. So there was no reason to build an OSC controller or to develope synths with OSC support but in the age of TouchOSC etc. it would make much more sense

Cheers
Dennis

[coops2]

Sensomusic Usine and Plogue Bidule support OSC so wrap whatever plugin you want in either of them

[Urs]

I have no idea about OSC.

Plugins communicate with the host via the plugin API, while hosts communicate with the outside world. Implementing OSC is a host task, not a plugin task.

For that reason I only deal with VST, AU and RTAS, but not at all with OSC.

If OSC does anything that goes beyond the protocols of plugin APIs, then the maintainers of those plugin standards (Apple, Digidesign, Steinberg, to name a few) need to be contacted about that

[VariKusBrainZ]

Also Reaktor uses OSC

[Bronto Scorpio]

I have no idea about OSC.

Plugins communicate with the host via the plugin API, while hosts communicate with the outside world. Implementing OSC is a host task, not a plugin task.

For that reason I only deal with VST, AU and RTAS, but not at all with OSC.

If OSC does anything that goes beyond the protocols of plugin APIs, then the maintainers of those plugin standards (Apple, Digidesign, Steinberg, to name a few) need to be contacted about that

Makes sense!

That could be the reason why the Reaktor standalone supports OSC and the plugin version doesn't.

The main advantage of OSC is that it sends and recieves true 32bit float data, which is MUCH better than the MIDI crap we still have to deal with after so many years.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Sound_Control

Cheers
Dennis

[Howard]

Looks like Logic has made a start, at least:
http://opensoundcontrol.org/implementat ... ro-express

[djsubject]

Looks like Logic has made a start, at least:
http://opensoundcontrol.org/implementat ... ro-express

Reaper is also implementing OSC control

Subz

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I'm just catching up on Diva now, and I'm completely psyched. I'm such a fan of small performer synths, and the ability to go from synth to synth within a simple interface just sounds amazing. Especially knowing Urs is behind it.

[MitchK1989]

Any chance of getting voltage control over attack/decay/sustain/release on A.C.E. in the future?

[Urs]

Any chance of getting voltage control over attack/decay/sustain/release on A.C.E. in the future?

Very little, I'm afraid.

The envelope is controlled at "control rate", that is, parameter changes and modulations are evaluated every 4th sample. Even though this is technically audio rate already, there's no "bus" whatsoever to route any of the audio signals (=cables) into the envelope modulation.

In Bazille (and probably on ACE XL) you do have those two "CV" outlets though. These can be used to transform an audio signal into a control voltage for the control rate parameter modulation system. Thus in those synths you can actually use cables to control envelope speed and level.

The alternative would be stuffing all modules into the audio rate "circuit board"... but that would stun any cpu.

[Crackbaby]

ACE XL

Have you got some feed i can sub for these kind of news?

[Urs]

ACE XL

Have you got some feed i can sub for these kind of news?

Well, we only send a newsletter for stable releases and stuff (there'll be a big one next week, including ACE, Zebra, Uhbik, MFM, Filterscape and soundbanks)

For all things beta testing, product ideas etc., this forum is the place to be.

We might however also post more such things on the website... just not right before or after releases...

[Crackbaby]

I must be so slow ....... there IS an RSS feed for this forum Now i can see whenever anyone writes something in the u-he section! Omg omg omg!
/happy

[MitchK1989]

Any chance of getting voltage control over attack/decay/sustain/release on A.C.E. in the future?

Very little, I'm afraid.

The envelope is controlled at "control rate", that is, parameter changes and modulations are evaluated every 4th sample. Even though this is technically audio rate already, there's no "bus" whatsoever to route any of the audio signals (=cables) into the envelope modulation.

In Bazille (and probably on ACE XL) you do have those two "CV" outlets though. These can be used to transform an audio signal into a control voltage for the control rate parameter modulation system. Thus in those synths you can actually use cables to control envelope speed and level.

The alternative would be stuffing all modules into the audio rate "circuit board"... but that would stun any cpu.

Sometimes I think we've hit a point where computers are 'powerful enough' to replace analog circuitry... Then something like this pops up and proves me wrong I guess.

[Urs]

Sometimes I think we've hit a point where computers are 'powerful enough' to replace analog circuitry... Then something like this pops up and proves me wrong I guess.

Hmmm, there are not many synths that let you control envelope parameters in audio rate. In ACE you can at least have envelopes modulate themselves afaiaa in a higher rate than e.g. the Virus.

To be honest, there's not much of a point in audio rate modulation of envelope parmeters. Attack will always be rising, you can only slow it down and accelerate it. In the end, a quantizer does the same job more efficiently. For everthing else you can use controlers and non-audiorate modulations.

Also, pretty much all important features/character of analogue gear come from economics, just look at how Korg built great sounding stuff with very simple circuits. There's been a lot of "cheating" which came out very musical. The same might be true in analogue emulation.

We'll see where it goes...