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iamyourfather · Post by **iamyourfather** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:41 pm

when playing back patterns from the zebra arp, I have to continually stop / start to get it to playback from the correct start point. It's a bit of a drag when trying to write stuff if every time you stop it to edit it you have to hit play/stop 5 times to get it to play right... am I doing smth wrong or is this a bug ?

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:01 pm

Read p64 in the manual "Step parameters" (and the rest of that chapter) - that should help!

iamyourfather · Post by **iamyourfather** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:54 am

Thx mr Scarr... I'm all over it like a cheap suit

iamyourfather · Post by **iamyourfather** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:08 am

Ah sorry this hasn't actually helped me. From what I can tell you seem to be inferring that the "next,same,first,last" settings are where I need to look. I already had them all set to next and the pattern plays correctly some times, when changing them to the other option it actually completely changes the pattern rather than stops it playing incorrectly. Not really sure what to do about this... hmm

EDIT, on further investigation I think it's my sequencer (reaper) as I cannot make the arp play incorrectly when triggering with my keyboard so it's smth in reaper's playback. Thx for the help tho

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:15 am

Try changing the first step to first, and the last step to last.
Leave the in between as default.
If that doesn't work, then try different combinations of settings until it's working the way you want it to.
It also matters to the amount of notes used as well.

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:32 pm

The Zebra ARP does no input note quantization. This means if you are off a very small amount on your playing the next series of notes can sound different. For example:

C,E,G hit at the same time will produce pattern X.
C,G, then E a very short time later(*) will produce pattern Y.

The way around this is either (a) practice playing or (b) write the notes to a midi lane and quantize in your DAW.

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(*) - My very rough estimate of a short time is somewhere between a couple of milliseconds to around 250 milliseconds.

iamyourfather · Post by **iamyourfather** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:58 pm

bmrzycki wrote:The Zebra ARP does no input note quantization. This means if you are off a very small amount on your playing the next series of notes can sound different. For example:

C,E,G hit at the same time will produce pattern X.
C,G, then E a very short time later(*) will produce pattern Y.

The way around this is either (a) practice playing or (b) write the notes to a midi lane and quantize in your DAW.

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(*) - My very rough estimate of a short time is somewhere between a couple of milliseconds to around 250 milliseconds.

I think you have misunderstood, this is a problem happening with a midi lane

I am saying that I cannot make it play incorrectly (as in cannot reproduce the error) with the keyboard... the keyboard works fine.

iamyourfather · Post by **iamyourfather** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:02 pm

mcnoone wrote:Try changing the first step to first, and the last step to last.
Leave the in between as default.
If that doesn't work, then try different combinations of settings until it's working the way you want it to.
It also matters to the amount of notes used as well.

I'll try that when I get a secind... cheers for the tip.

Also, Ollie (mod/dev over at the reaper forums) thinks it's a host sync issue (maybe). Are there any host sync options on Zebra ? I told Ollie that I thought there aren't as I don't see anything like that. Does this seem a possibility tho ?

iamyourfather · Post by **iamyourfather** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:16 pm

tried switching the first step to first and the last to last and then realised I have the arp playing backwards so reversed it and tried that. It didn't work, it actually altered the pattern (as I suspect it should do as it alters the order of notes in the chord the arp responds to) and the inconsistency remained as before.

iamyourfather · Post by **iamyourfather** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:51 pm

Any ideas ? nGot nothing from Reaper forums

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:04 pm

Yes - only quantize the first note in each chord!

CandeFan · Post by **CandeFan** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:10 pm

Did you trie Quantize? Q in Reaper.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:27 pm

CandeFan wrote:Did you trie Quantize? Q in Reaper.

No, don't do that. The trick is NOT to quantize anthing but first notes (in chords), otherwise the host can reorder them.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:44 pm

Howard wrote:
CandeFan wrote:Did you trie Quantize? Q in Reaper.
No, don't do that. The trick is NOT to quantize anthing but first notes (in chords), otherwise the host can reorder them.

Makes sense! Never thought of that.

Cheers
Dennis

iamyourfather · Post by **iamyourfather** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:50 pm

ok so i need to essentially offset the second and third note of each chord just a cat's whisker, maybe play with order until I get desired result. will give that a bash thx Howard

edit have to pop out but will try as soon as i can

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