The long DIVA thread

[ryandfl]

Some would say that u-he Diva is the most CPU-intensive virtual instrument...















...in the world.

Ha, excellent Top Gear usage.

Seriously it is amazing how much CPU Diva can use. It is highly variable though, so it's not that Dive Does use a crapton of CPU, but it Can.

I was demoing some presets last night and there were a number that took my CPU indicator from about 30% to way over 100%, which dropped out the audio. But there were plenty of patches that were fine using about 10-25% of my Core i3's horsepower while using Divine or the next highest level (forget the name) quality setting. I haven't made any patches myself that use more than 40% of my machine, and most are more like 15%, I think.

Anyways, I'm happy about it. I want quality over quantity. Investing in a new CPU that can run many instances of Diva is a whole lot cheaper than investing actual analog gear. Not that I wont be doing both!

[ryandfl]

I know it really doesn't belong on an analogue synthesizer, but having the ability to re-trigger oscillators would make this synth perfect for 'tight' baselines.
Maybe I'm the only one here, but I'd be very happy if such a function will be added with a future update.

Speaking of stretching the original-ness of the synths, I think an extra 'hidden' LFO and envelope in the Modifications tab would be a nice addition.

[Ingonator]

Hi,

no problem. I was just curíous if you also talked about polyphonic sounds.
As soon as i'll be rendering full songs and not just single presets i'll have to use freeze too i'm sure.


Ingo

When the final version will be available I will make some tests to be able to predict better what features take what amount of CPU. I made several pad presets and some are rather light on CPU. But because of the CPU consumption I didn't make a lot of pads until now.

So far i found the multimode filter be be a big CPU killer which already improved 9% (based on one of my own pad sounds) from version 338 to 360 so in future versions it could be even better.


Ingo

[hakey]

I know it really doesn't belong on an analogue synthesizer, but having the ability to re-trigger oscillators would make this synth perfect for 'tight' baselines.

Back on page 20 Urs said he was considering adding phase reset to the Juno 60 oscillator, but that was in July and he may have decided otherwise since.

I think an extra 'hidden' LFO and envelope in the Modifications tab would be a nice addition.

Can't see it happening, but I would certainly welcome another envelope.

And, though not exactly an envelope, a one-shot lfo mode would, for the sacrifice of an lfo, provide a basic ramp generator.

[mystran]

I know it really doesn't belong on an analogue synthesizer, but having the ability to re-trigger oscillators would make this synth perfect for 'tight' baselines.

Well, you can certainly do it with most modular oscillators (well, anything with patchable sync input) in analog too by patching gate to the oscillator sync input. As long as the oscillator syncs on rising edge it'll work fine; alternative if the oscillator syncs on falling edge, send the gate through an inverter first. If you patch it through a counter you can also get stuff like reset on every other note.

I've actually done this a few time even if I usually prefer free running.

[Grooveman]

Wow
I also love the Diva
Will definetly buy it for my ambient project, this is then Analog Emulation I was waiting for without knowing it before
A easy to programm synth ,all sounds sound great from the beginning,no extra voodoo needed.

But one thing i got to mention:
is it just me, or are the knobs for the envelope and lfo intensity (to the filters and oscilators) a little bit too sensitiv (it always needs just a little) ???

ah, +1 to an extra simple Digital Oscilator with Phase Reset, i whould love to make some nice psy-basslines with those incredible filters (ok, i have no problem using ACE for this duty the rest of my live...its great for that)

DivaDivaDu

[complicity]

Hi

Loving the sound of this thing. Most fun I've had with a VSTi in ages.
The inclusion of a Prophet type filter would make it perfect!

[Crackbaby]

Is there a foolproof way to not miss out on a new beta-version? Will there be a new thread, a post with updated first post (and topic)?

[JustIntonation]

Please please tell me Diva supports microtuning? (like Zebra)
Couldn't tell from the image.

[Urs]

Is there a foolproof way to not miss out on a new beta-version? Will there be a new thread, a post with updated first post (and topic)?

New first post, Twitter, Facebook...

[xybre]

The effects are not emulated from keyboards in the same way as the other modules, correct? That might be an interesting addition in the far far future. The juno chorus effects and I'm thinking something like the chorus, phase, ensemble section from the polysix.. but likely not worth the effort, just a thought. the effects sound fine as it is.

TAL did a Juno emulation that left people scratching their heads a couple of years ago, he even extracted the chorus, so you could probably pair that effect with Diva for a more complete Juno emulation.

Here's a link to it:
http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-chorus-60

Urs has said he's doing a special chorus emulation, I'm assuming its one of the classic Rolands, TAL's version should work well until then.

[xybre]

Does anyone else think this synth shares some characteristics with the blofeld?

Absolutely not! I find the Blofeld sound rather annoying / gritty in a bad way (I still have two Blofeld protos here). You have tried the various Accuracy settings in Diva, right?

Okay I love my Blofeld, but Diva is about as different from it as any subtractive synth can be.

[dusted william]

A re-trigger option is a definitive plus. So +1 from me too.

Me too!

[jumper24]

Diva also pre-ordered here. It just sounds awesome !
I have a 980x based system, and i can run about 4-8 voices in "great" or "devine" mode per instance/thread. (there is total 12 threads on the 980x!) So enough to let the songwriting flow without need to render.


Will it be possible to trigger the env via the LFO's ? (just like on a SH09/SH101)

[jupiter8]

Diva also pre-ordered here. It just sounds awesome !
I have a 980x based system, and i can run about 4-8 voices in "great" or "devine" mode per instance/thread. (there is total 12 threads on the 980x!)

This i'm curious about. Have you tested it to the limit of what your computer is capable off ? Because there's 6 cores (unless i'm mistaken) and 6 hyperthreading cores (or whatever it's called). My guess is you can "only" run 6 times 4-8 voices but i don't really know. But i sure would like to find out!