The long DIVA thread

[bg]

Wait... you mean during release? - If no key is pressed, the glide "stops" even though the release phase of the voice is heard?

yes

[Urs]

Yeah... hmmm... interesting... might be worth a look

[bg]

Cool. A fun use of the release-phase-notes-off-glide-stoppage behavior is prolonging a slow glide by repeatedly tapping the target note. Like tugging on the pitch with a rope.

[joeym2008]

Has anyone else run into this? The text labels are not visible. I'm using it in Live 8.2.6. Sounds great though and I love the layout.

[Urs]

Has anyone else run into this? The text labels are not visible. I'm using it in Live 8.2.6. Sounds great though and I love the layout.

You need "Lucida Sans Unicode", which is a standard font that comes with Windows. Maybe it got lost during a Recovery?

Cheers,

Urs

[joeym2008]

Has anyone else run into this? The text labels are not visible. I'm using it in Live 8.2.6. Sounds great though and I love the layout.

You need "Lucida Sans Unicode", which is a standard font that comes with Windows. Maybe it got lost during a Recovery?

Cheers,

Urs

Thanks for the quick reply Urs. I checked my fonts folder and "Lucida Sans Unicode" is installed. If you have any more advice I would appreciate it.

[mystran]

Is this bug already known: with ECO oscillator mode [edit: actually it does the same thing with "Dual OSC" as well] on the first oscillator the 16' and 8' settings both give 8' and the 32' gives 16' while the second oscillator works as expected.

[edit2: oh sorry seems someone already reported it in the other thread]

[bg]

Urs, you have created a clean, uncluttered interface, so forgive me for what I'm about to ask (and what I'm sure was thoroughly discussed during Diva development): Any chance of osc and noise on/off switches?

It would help for programming and performance.

edit: "performance" as in live performing, not cpu.

[Ingonator]

Hi,

i just updated my Diva presets here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=105

80 presets and mostly Minimoog patches based on patch books.

Another story:

I had used the Arturia Minimoog demo to calibrate the parameters of Diva which worked quite nicely.
Now i thought i could check it with the Minimonsta demo too (i sold the full version a few months ago). The result is that if i reprogram a patch sheet it does not even sound close to how it should! One problem seems to be that the parameter values in the display are totally different from the labels at the knobs. Really strange. Funny thing is i never tried this as long as i got the full version of Minimonsta. To be honest i never really liked it really much.
Especially at higher amounts of Resonance, e.g. above 40-50% Minimosnat seems to sound quite strange. More or less this was mentioned in this article at the part about the filter:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug05/a ... monsta.htm

This is from that article (at the part "Sounds & Problems"):
"As for the sounds themselves... Having the original Minimoog patch book to hand, I checked Gforce's recreation of the 'factory' sounds against #11285. These were far from identical. In addition to the differences in filter resonance and contours, this is largely a consequence of knob calibration: the same settings on the two instruments do not give the same results. Qualitatively, though, Minimonsta was not better or worse... just different."

In that article they also mention that the envelopes don't seem tto work correctly so i'll not try to use this for another calibration of my Diva presets.

I had a real Mini back in 2005 and currently a Moog Slim Phatty and Diva sounds MUCH closer than Minimonsta ever did IMO. Even the Arturia version seems to be better or more authentic (while it's sound lacks in the low end) IMO.


Ingo

[izonin]

Hi,

i just updated my Diva presets here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=105

80 presets and mostly Minimoog patches based on patch books.

I had used the Arturia Minimoog demo to calibrate the parameters of Diva which worked quite nicely.
Now i thought i could check it with the Minimonsta demo too (i sold the full version a few months ago). The result is that if i reprogram a patch sheet it does not even sound close to how it should! One problem seems to be that the parameter values in the display are totally different from the labels at the knobs. Really strange. Funny thing is i never tried this as long as i got the full version of Minimonsta. To be honest i never really liked it really much.
Especially at higher amounts of Resonance, e.g. above 40-50% Minimosnat seems to sound quite strange. More or less this was mentioned in this article at the part about the filter:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug05/a ... monsta.htm

This is from that article (at the part "Sounds & Problems"):
"As for the sounds themselves... Having the original Minimoog patch book to hand, I checked Gforce's recreation of the 'factory' sounds against #11285. These were far from identical. In addition to the differences in filter resonance and contours, this is largely a consequence of knob calibration: the same settings on the two instruments do not give the same results. Qualitatively, though, Minimonsta was not better or worse... just different."

In that article they also mention that the envelopes don't seem tto work correctly so i'll not try to use this for another calibration of my Diva presets.

I had a real Mini back in 2005 and currently a Moog Slim Phatty and Diva sounds MUCH closer than Minimonsta ever did IMO. Even the Arturia version seems to be better or more authentic IMO.


Ingo

Minimonsta is a cold, sterile sounding softsynth with too many plastic artifacts. Arturia's Minimoog is somewhat closer to the original, but due to lack of resolution and sharpnes, it's basses "fart" in a rather ugly way.

Diva is so far the sexiest emulation. Even if in some cases it sounds more like a Voyager.

[iMag1ne]

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Ive spend some more time with Diva

Anyway I made some new sounds, maby some one can test them and tell me if they would like me to make more.

Even with some minor bugs this is already my fav vst, when I switch over from Diva to other synths they sound so dull, cold and digital...

Here are the presets:

http://speedy.sh/UntAE/Sounds-101.rar (http://speedy.sh/UntAE/Sounds-101.rar)


Thanks


( I hope this is the right thread for me to post this )

[Mogular]

Hi Urs

CoolColJ has posted some comparison audio between a real Jupiter 8 and Diva here: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/7262717-post439.html

When you get a chance you might want to check it out. I have tried to match his example but I can't get the same shape in the envelopes.
At the moment there certainly seems to be a noticeable difference in the behavior between Diva and CoolColJ's Jupiter.

[Urs]

Hi Urs

CoolColJ has posted some comparison audio between a real Jupiter 8 and Diva here: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/7262717-post439.html

When you get a chance you might want to check it out. I have tried to match his example but I can't get the same shape in the envelopes.
At the moment there certainly seems to be a noticeable difference in the behavior between Diva and CoolColJ's Jupiter.

Yeah I know. The "rough" setting he used has even harmonics which the Jupiter hasn't. The "clean" setting is more like it but doesn't get as much resonance as his Jupiter. We might have to tweak the clean setting for more resonance, but I don't think it's all that important. The strength of the Jupiter is something else IMHO.

[Mogular]

I thought the main difference was in the behavior of the envelopes. Or do you think its just the envelopes in his Diva patch are not properly adjusted?

[bg]

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